How is money an issue? I can run down to the contracted office-supply refurbisher 2 miles away, buy a 2-year old lenovo mini PC for $160, and slap Debian on it for no additional licence fee.
People are still using facebook and reddit by the hundreds of millions or billions. Most people don’t give 2 shits about technology, just that it sort of works. Most people are Jen.
why not? it is clearer to read, and being more explicit when writing scripts can be safer, maybe not in this case, but if you echoed a variable without quotes, it could possibly expand as a glob
maybe not in this case, but we’re talking about this case. Quoting is needed when it’s needed, otherwise, well, is not needed. Rest assured zealotries tend to disappear the more time you’re exposed to this stuff ;) but in the meanwhile prepare yourself for some PR rejections should you ever work with me hahaha cheers
We overestimate what most people do with their computers.
Most people that buy one never touch the re-installation of the OS. I wouldn’t be surprised if I learned 99% of PC users haven’t even done it once.
People buy a PC and use whatever it comes with. They don’t uninstall bloat. They might use a different browser. And then they’ll stick with it until they’re done with it.
It requires knowledge to use different Operating Systems. Most people either don’t have the time or don’t care to learn it. I can’t say I blame them, I never cared to learn about my car. I don’t ever really want to! Yet, I use it every day.
Is reloading PCs really still a thing anymore? I’d been told that it stopped being necessary (unless you fucked something up) somewhere around windows 7.
Great way to remove crap you have completely forgotten about.
My friend does it atleast yearly out of habbit. He says it runs better but I think it’s tge placebo effect and I am a data hoarder (no the bad kind) so don’t.
For 3 years now I originally bought about half a dozen desktops from Intel gen 2, a couple C2D’s and an AMD IDK what is offhand and yet after offering a FREE computer (FREE as in FREEDOM that happens not to cost any money but rather in time to learn…etc etc.) if any of them sat down long enough to learn how to use GNU/Linux enough to run GPG and write encrypted messages and read software signatures…
Included keyboards, monitors, mouse, etc. and more (even USB3, NVME etc.) for boys educations being fulfilled, that is NO FINANCIAL COST.
Yeah, half a dozen acceptances and only one actually going through to finish and learn. My wife.
I’m trying to figure out how to teach people and learn such myself but despite claims no real acceptance. I don’t write software and even my father who does…fucking Apple. facepalm
I wouldn’t accept something like that either, you can’t force people to just waste (in their view) countless of hours on something they don’t care about.
People can use whatever they like, and I’m guessing your dad only wants to use Apple more because of everyone telling him to stop using it.
It’s not that at all. Maybe its what it sounds like when I say it but what I’m offering is a computer in for education. My education on how to talk to people.
Because I explain all this and you fuckers downvote me. Wtf? Lmfao. You fucking humans deserve to fucking die for being selfish idiots who don’t devote to learning what our true messiah this age spoke of. Let alone what he coded.
You might have more success if you dial it back, average users don’t need that deep of an understanding. They just need a functional system that does what they expect it to.
I’ve converted several family members to Linux to ease my own role as their tech support. And it was as simple as preloading things they’d need, showing them what the new browser/email/whatever looked like, showing them the new “app store” (KDE Discover), and telling them to call me if it breaks. Some of them explored further and learned how the system works, others were just happy to click the buttons I showed them. None of them regret the change.
I don’t give a fuck about those people. I’ll be honest to anyone. The offer is an exchange. My computer for education upon me on how to talk to people. If you can’t tell, I know lots of words but not very well upon how to use them.
I’ll second this by saying that most people will just buy a new computer when their current one becomes “slow”. For me, a slow computer is easy to find a solution for. It’s almost always the install drive is a hard drive and too many background applications. For other people the only solution in their eyes is a brand new PC because even the operating system is part of the whole PC.
You probably should learn the basics of your car, or develop a relationship with someone who is good at/knows cars and pick a few things up from them.
You rely on it working correctly to not die and the company that makes it would happily let you die if they calculated it was more profitable that way.
Like it’s a good thing to have basic knowledge of the stuff we rely on. You don’t need to be an expert but total ignorance is a very vulnerable position.
I liked it at first, but then I ran into some really weird shit. Re-installing didn’t erase the previous install, programs I installed disappeared after reboot, etc. This might be caused by the jankiness of UEFI, I don’t know. I’m never buying another HP laptop after they pulled this shit with UEFI. It’s given me so many headaches.
I remember when xp was not supported and…people kept using it. Security bugs and all. Most people don’t really think about the os, they think about the programs they are using.
I think the mangled English there is suggesting that some people don’t care enough, and other people have enough money (to buy Windows).
Not that it matters because who the fuck pays for Windows anyway? OEMs do, but not normal people. Everything since like Windows 7 has been a free upgrade, and normies get a new PC more often than that so get a copy with it.
Not all computers are eligible for a free upgrade, my work desktop (windows 10) got a pop up about ending support & that my computer isn’t eligible for an upgrade to windows 11.
Edited to add: this post is so old idk why I commented. Sorry lol
I seriously can’t make sense of this meme… What is it trying to say? Why is the train smashing “Linux adoption”? It seems like this meme contradicts itself at every opportunity lol
Here’s my experience using Linux for 3 yrs now. I was excited enough to try a new OS that I learned how to install a new operating system on a new laptop I bought. I never could get rid of a drivers alert on every start up, even though I knew there was nothing wrong there. Googling the problem, the top 5 results were 5 completely different solutions. Whatever it’s a small problem so I ignored it. Months later my sound started screwing up, like distortions. (Ok, so maybe there is something wrong with my drivers.) But could never figure it out and could resolve the sound problem momentarily with a restart. With the sound issue happening more frequently, I thought I should get a new laptop, this time built with Linux pre installed by a company that knows what they’re doing. I bought a $1200 laptop from System 76, with specs that I could easily pay $500 less for. I don’t understand why the volume buttons don’t work out of the box and the auto update of snap packages has been ridiculously frustrating cause all my firefox tabs close and seem to be lost. Again, googling the issue gets a dozen different solutions and I don’t know what route to take. I only need an internet browser & word processor, ffs. I feel too stupid for Linux. I don’t even have kids or much of a time sucking job and I feel like learning this OS is too time-consuming. I’m probably getting a Mac for my next laptop and wish I didn’t feel like I have to.
I have no idea how you’ve run into so many issues. People shit on Ubuntu here but I’ve always used it as a “Mac OS alternative” since the flavor feels similar. My wife uses it all the time and has very few issues. The only issue we run into is Bluetooth, but I have Bluetooth issues with every OS I’ve ever used: Android, MacOS, Windows, etc.
I’ve had no major issues with my Ubuntu distro. Snap updates work without closing any software - as far as I know. I just tested a snap refresh, but I didn’t have any out-of-date software.
I would argue I push the boundaries of common Ubuntu usage as well. I have 8TB of mixed HDD and SSD storage which I use for gaming, Unity development, Blender, Plex server, and random programming projects (e.g. k8s cluster work). I don’t have any major issues.
People complain a lot about Ubuntu and I just don’t get it. It’s a good software for the average consumer, in my opinion. My wife uses it for her computer and has pretty much no issues.
I do want to switch to Linux Mint someday since people are adamant that it’s better than Ubuntu but I think I’ll stick with Ubuntu since I’ve setup so many things on this machine and I don’t want to redo this work.
I use Xubuntu on my media server, and have never had that happen. I get a notification saying that the Firefox snap is going to update in 14 days, but closing the browser, updating, and reopening brings all my tabs and windows back. I get the same if I close the browser and restart the computer, letting the snaps update automatically.
I wonder if OP has got the restore open tabs setting turned off.
I’ve had a lot of similar experiences that just make me not want to use Linux on the desktop. There’s always something breaking, and if you like to tinker with your computer and don’t mind spending an afternoon fixing audio or Bluetooth or a monitor configuration it’s not too bad, but if you just want something that works Linux is definitely not it
Tbh it kinda comes to the reason why there are some people still using Windows XP in 2023: they refuse to let go. If another operating system can give them the same experience as Windows 10 with the latest support for all applications, hopefully they’ll take that as opposed to using an outdated version of Windows.
Source: my main gaming rig is switching to arch once windows 10 reaches eol
To be honest it is reliable on my system and the best thing is that I don’t have to think about updates, out of date dependence, package versions or packages in general. Just paru package done. As long as you are fine with setting some stuff up manually Arch is pretty amazing.
I’ve used arch before because of it’s philosophy of KISS. So far, no distro has been able to provide me with an experience as smooth as arch has. Plus I’m not just doing normie stuff I like to program sometimes.
TLDR: it’s just what I’m comfortable using so idc if using another distro is easier for what I do.
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