Are you actually modding conversations you are directly involved in? When I have done modding, that would usually be discouraged as a conflict of interest.
I’m almost the opposite side of the political compass from current Chinese regime but even I must admit Sinophobia is out of control. It is totally cool to altogether dismiss and undermine any of their achievements and reduce 1/6 of humanity down to a single facet, all because popular Western propaganda says so.
Ah yes, because China obviously is not an authoritarian regime that is just poorly veiled capitalism. China is full of the same shit that the west has, just in a different package.
Do you eat Kool-Aide right out of the packet, without even mixing it with water? Falun Gong is an NED/CIA funded far-right cult that makes shit up all the time.
the hk rioters were cia puppets that wanted to return the city to colonial rule. only 17.4% of the population supported the protests and most were manipulated by western propaganda, backing down after finding out the truth. the prc is waaay to lenient on the sar imho
the so called “organ harvesting farms” are a an obvious lie invented by the dangerous doomsday cult falun gong, an organization that literally has a swastika as its logo. the only people still spreading that shit are right wing hacks like jordan peterson.
the many lies about the 1989 color revolution attempt are debunked here.
I didn’t call it nonsense. The truth of the statement isn’t in question just by calling it propaganda. I’m criticizing it because cherry-picking economic successes to celebrate an oppressive regime is a concerning behaviour.
Raising 800 million people out of poverty in the span of 70 years is not “cherry picking,” it’s the “greatest such achievement in history” by the UN’s own reckoning. How do you square the circle of China being an “oppressive regime” and raising 800 million people out of poverty? I’m sure you’ve been fed virtually the same fire hose of cold war propaganda your whole life as I have.
concerning behaviorjagoff Thank you for your concern trolling.
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the difference between our copypastas is the fact that mine is based in material reality. DEATH TO AMERICA
And the Uyghur bullshit has been debunked six ways to Sunday.
The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.
We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.
Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.
The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.
Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.
Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).
Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.
Yeah. Considering how hard it is to cook up news sources that support your propaganda. There is not one reputable source in your references. And you start celebrating!
It’s not hard to find news sources that support yours: it’s been blasted in our faces all day every day our entire lives.
A KGB spy and a CIA agent meet up in a bar for a friendly drink.
“I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.
“Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”
The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”
All of the above is in US college curricula and none of it is controversial. It’s in history, polysci, public relations, journalism, and marketing schools.
Ah, yes! The yellow animal strawman! Do you people have some playbook or something? Look for something new. This one has become a cliché.
BTW, it’s not racist to insult an evil man or regime. But like any true evil regime, you spin that as an attack on an entire race. Nobody other than you even mentioned the Chinese people. It’s like those evil gangs that use commoners as shield. It’s just pathetic.
You know what’s also racist? China genociding Uyghurs. Quit pretending that the fact that the US is an imperialist piece of shit means that China is good.
Not so fast. While it is certainly questionable what they are doing and I personally don’t like China either, the Uyghur situation is complicated and Bad Empanada made a detailed analysis of the situation while trying to be unbiased. Most of what we see (or rather saw since the trend kind of died) in western media is very exxagerated and there were reasons that had little to do with ethnicity.
red scare bullshit. western media is writing this in order to deflect from the real spying done by the united states. even if the lies told by western propaganda would have anything to do in reality, why would you care about a far away government collecting intelligence about you over the one that can (and will) actually hurt you?
i use foss because i like the idea of it (its basically cyber leftism), as well as to hide from western intelligence, since i have the misfortune of living in there. why are YOU using it?
unlike western nations, china is a a dictatorship of the proletariat, aka a peoples state. you will only be targered, if you are some kind of rightist. i happen to support the targeting of such people, to the point that i believe the prc isnt doing nearly enough in this regard, allowing elements like deng xiaoping to rise through the ranks. cuba and korea are much more consequent in this regard.
and so is chinese and Russian media. go ahead make sure the news source is centrist, and not get into political fights. also do you notice that communist symbols are banned in former communist nations.
You people go around calling others NSA, CIA and what not. But from my perspective, all your counter arguments are similar, consistent and repetitive. I have seen the same in other communities as well. At this point, you might as well concede that you’re running a CCP propaganda campaign on the lemmyverse, instead of trying to discredit others.
there aint no genocide perpetrated by the prc. even IF all the fake evidence provided by the west were real (it isnt) it would still look absolutely ridiculous in comparison to real genocides like the one in gaza and all the other places brutalized by the us and their puppets.
The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.
We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.
Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.
The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.
Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.
Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).
Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.
You really just compared “African leader” to “a monkey”. I can’t, I can’t believe it. The irony, the sheer irony, it’s delicious, so very delicious, keep feeding me more of this shit.
You’re completely miss understanding the entire thing. You’re dear lead is being compared to an iconic, childhood beloved, Disney, cartoon bear 🐻, and you think it’s racist? How foolish.
Somebody compares your dear supreme dictator to a cartoon bear. You: “You are racist against all Chinese”.
Even after others clarify that it’s against one person, you have your ears plugged and crying racism. You know what it sounds like? A scripted act to pretend that you’re morally right. In fact, I have seen this so many times. It’s from your masters’ propaganda playbook, isn’t it?
No, I am not racist. I just think this Chinese person looks like a yellow animal, but let me just pretend is this one person, so it is okay with others not to call me out on my racism. /s
I bet it is also okay to say that African leaders I don’t like look like other kinds of primates /s.
Since I don’t like them it must be okay to be racist towards them /s
This is what happen when people are not taught critical race theory. They don’t even know that they are being racist 🤦🏾♂️
Wow! The amount of dishonesty in your words is staggering. Nobody pretended that it was against one person - they mentioned only one person. You’re the one who twisted their words and pretended that it’s against an entire race. In fact, you are the only one who mentioned the Chinese race here.
And the racist tirade against Africans. They didn’t say that - you did. You made a racist insult in order to argue that others are racist. To be honest, no one else here is anywhere close to a racist as you are.
And please stop hiding behind ridiculous accusations of racism. It’s an extremely common and cheap tactic employed by autocrats to misdirect.
Y’all are tripping he literally has the Pooh bear smile and set of eyes I don’t know any other Chinese people who look like ghatm he has a DISTINCT Pooh bear ass look. This got nothing to do with Pooh being yellow. You might as well say the red shirt is a communism reference.
It’s definitely the second - paid. Look how new people are turning up with long posts supposedly debunking ‘western propaganda’, supported by suspicious external sources. Also not how a pro- China post here is upvoted by multiple people as soon as it’s posted. All these could be one person. Even so, why go through so much trouble supporting a person others consider as a dictator?
Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big DealOn the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
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