Please, don’t even touch this. With our RKN and useless pinnocchios banning random things extrajudiciously, I’d be surprised if we’d have any access to the internet in 2026. For those without a government issued pass and active service in bot farms, I mean. If I’d get limited to local resources, I feel like I’d give up on internet altogether. Can’t discuss shit there without pseudo-trad weirdos chiming in.
It may be a major plus for the Internet as a whole if the cable is cut completely, but I feel like it’d only be cut for dissenting folks, while carriers of the official talking points wouldn’t ever get limited.
Regulated doesn’t mean they control all VPNs, it means they usually have laws requiring any use of VPN to be licensed, and usually is allowed for businesses rather than individuals. They also block via their firewall many providers. Of course, you could always use one illegally as long as traffic isn’t blocked. Just don’t get caught.
Security and testing localization will be big use cases. But privacy and or using banned apps, no so much. They don’t call it the Great Firewall for nothing. ISPs, VPNs, etc.
If you want to use western social media , it’s not as simple as jumping into a VPN.
Same in Russia. I worked with a banking company that had a Russia office, and the company had to get government approval for the BOVPNs that were used.
is strictly educational and can only be used certain times of the day
Nope and nope. Like normak tiktok, douyin have all sort of things, depends on what you view. You can login to it (doesn’t have to), and the account is connect to your cellphone number which is connected to your national ID. I don’t know if theres time limitations if you are a minor though.
I’ve sideloaded douyin before, it isn’t strictly educational but I do believe if a child is using the device there is time limits. and also you can’t sign up without a Chinese ID but it doesn’t require an account. I actually did find some Americans on there who somehow found a way to sign up.
The IDs of criminals are sometimes leaked on the web. People use those leaked IDs to register their account. Many systems don’t actually check whether the ID is already registered, it works as long as the ID itself is valid.
Lol lazy CCP. Now that optimization is going brr that probably won’t last. Lol idk maybe they don’t care. If it isn’t a problem why care? If it became an issue though they’d lock it down so fast lol
China has indeed blocked tiktok, but their version, douyin likely runs on similar systems and have similar types of contents. These two versions just don’t share content and probably have different moderation and privacy policies.
I think you are confusing the tiktok block with the computer game ban, which requires excessive verifications (even biometric) to play games. And underaged children can only play games in assigned time slots with time limit:
In 2019, the country imposed a cybercurfew barring those under 18 from playing games between 10 p.m. and 8 a.m.
Recognizing that wily teenagers might try to use their parents’ devices or identities to circumvent the restrictions, the Chinese internet conglomerate Tencent said this week that it would close the loophole by deploying facial recognition technology in its video games.
Except Tik Tok hasn’t been banned yet. And it’s not being banned for even remotely the same reason.
The issue with Tik Tok is that it’s owned by a company with ties to the CCP. The CCP, conversly, has “the great firewall”, which is directly intended to facilitate Chinese propaganda efforts to control their people.
You’re kinda stupid if you think big nation states outside of China do not participate in what China does. China learned from other influential countries as the CCP are the new kids on the block
Off topic but I really enjoyed much of this show (Umbrella Academy), particularly I was so impressed with how the child actor actually pulled off carrying the entire show, he was not only the leading & most interesting character but also IMO had one of the best performances on it. Come to think of it, I should look into what else he’s done.
Anyway, what episode is this from, do you know? (I know it’s just a meme format now, worth a shot tho)
If you like Klaus you should watch a show the same actor did years ago called Misfits! He kind of carried that show too, it was never quite as good after he left lol
Yeah I stopped watching when he did. It was teen drama before, which I’m normally not a fan of, but he made it worth it. Without him it was just another “teens get crazy powers, hijinks ensue” show.
I kept watching for a few more seasons. There was enough of the original cast left that it wasn’t bad per se, but it wasn’t the same. I finally had to give up during that season where the guy was screaming about his missing cock the whole time lol
The umbrella academy was hard carried by five. The actor really pulled off the adult stuck in a kid’s body thing. The actor that played the guy with addiction issues was great too.
This is the kind of thing that gets to me in this whole TikTok situation the most.
China bans most American based social media and what it doesn’t ban is heavily monitored censored and regulated.
Why would we (Americans) want to willingly use a Chinese owned/based/operated social media platform like TikTok?
We should never have started using it in the first place or at least immediately dropped it as soon as it became common knowledge that it had substantial ties to china.
There is so much hypocrisy on all sides of this issue.
It does smack of hypocrisy but I’ve been feeling more it’s a paradox of tolerance thing. Which itself a sort of hypocrisy now that I’m thinking about it. Huh.
nah, i don’t see it as a tolerance issue at all, I see it more through a Chomsky/Foucault lens.
US social media has been used as a state messaging apparatus for going on two decades now, and a foreign-owned platform is simply not as responsive to US state pressure as a domestically-owned one. China was simply playing the same game as the US has been. It’s not at all surprising that the US would want to ban one that has gotten to be so widely used - but what’s funny about it is the messaging/logic used to do so.
“A communist authoritarian actor is influencing civilian opinion through media curation, so we must take drastic authoritarian action to control media curation to stop foreign influence of civilian opinion.”
I think seeing it through a ‘paradox of tolerance’ lens kinda misses the point of the irony I see in the response.
We are not in China, are we? The (american) government should NOT have control over what information its citizens have access to. We should not strive to be like China in this regard.
China censors what its people sees on its platforms so its people started using facebook. Then China started demanding that facebook censor itself in China (there was a major terror attack that sparked this) but Facebook refused so they banned it. Same thing happened with reddit and such.
Meanwhile, the US started censoring its major media platforms people either fled to niche libre sites like this or the shiny new addictive app from China. China doesnt care about what americans see. It’ll happily let americans see Israelis document their war crimes. The US said, sell to american investors, and be censored or be banned. ByteDance chose being banned. Welcome to the great american firewall.
I don’t know if Chinese government actually reaches out to social platforms before banning them, I remember reddit was avaliable in China in 2015 - 2016ish. Then it got banned, I believe its because of its political contents (r/china and such).
I still fell like unless you want to learn Chinese specifically, the non Chinese version would explose you to more foreign languages. Guess its up to you, but I’d imagine they’d just VPN to the same verion they’re using now.
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