ai6yr,

"We can wrap you in a full-body suit of neoprene, heat-resistant rubber. Or we can raise the temperature in Cosmo's office to 98.6 degrees - which is probably what we'll have to do, because the neoprene would suffocate you. "

ai6yr,

(This random quote thanks to my having to turn the heat up at my house to 70F apply epoxy coating to my tub).

ai6yr, (edited )

That went quick. Full vapor canister respirator absolutely required, and I did end up opening up a window to the cold world outside for some additional ventilation, with a fan pointed into this room (close it up for drying for the next few hours). Eyes started watering so I figured out more air needed.! Another coat between 4 and 6 hours required.

ai6yr,

Coat#2. Still have some material left but going to leave it at this, unless some massive issue shows up. Entire house is most certainly full of nasty fumes: would not do this in an occupied building without some serious ventilation. Despite the weather, decided it is better to vent to the outdoors, so opened up a window elsewhere in the house and have a fan directed into this room.

bud_t,
@bud_t@m.ai6yr.org avatar

@ai6yr wow good on ya. I thought about re-glazing a tub in or house a couple of years ago but decided not to try. What was the cost for materials and your labor like?

ai6yr,

@bud_t 1 full day of sanding/cleaning/sanding/steel wool/cleaning/repeat a bunch of times. About 10 min to apply, then another 10 minute to reapply. Right now the biggest downside is the fume load is incredible... I was going to seal up the house and let it bake but decided the amount of fumes in the house was unacceptable and cracked the window, and another elsewhere in the house, and have a fan going. Will drop the temperature below spec but currently you might take out someone without PPE in there 😱

ai6yr,

@bud_t Cost was $42 for the kit, though... I could see doing it again if the house was vacant/no pets, or it was the heat of August and you could open all the windows and you don't have A/C running, with some strategic fans running to vent out the outgassing.

camless,
@camless@m.ai6yr.org avatar

@ai6yr @bud_t I had to seal the edges of my tiled shower about a year ago, thankfully it's still holding. The previous owner/their worker had sealed the edges with grout... Which cracked and failed spectacularly. That goop is no joke!

ai6yr,

Day#3 on tub remodel. Lethal fumes cleared from house overnight. Closing windows and pushing up the heat again to help it cure. Looks pretty good, though there are a couple of light spots and a little drip apparent in a corner. Acceptable but not perfect. Not dry enough to remove masking, started but stopped. No bubbles.

ai6yr,

Current assessment of this as a project:

  1. Challenging and labor intensive. (less so than replacing a tub yourself, that said).
  2. Requires PPE... nasty without full respirator with vapor protection!
  3. Not perfect -- i.e. it's not a flawless finish (but likely acceptable for my uses). Perfectionists will likely not be happy with the resulting finish. The settling of the epoxy on the second layer only occurred after it had been curing for some number of hours.... may have been able to avoid this with three (vs two) layers, but then I'd have been doing that at 2am, LOL.... Can be remedied I think by using a small brush and remaining material AFTER this is fully cured. (but, fumes again).
sciencewrighter,
@sciencewrighter@m.ai6yr.org avatar

@ai6yr I guess this is why subs are so screwy. The fumes.

ai6yr,

@sciencewrighter I will have to agree, and no PPE.

glightly,
@glightly@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr Fixing everything you want to fix before moving back?

ai6yr,

@glightly Yep... at least, stuff that you'd want to do when the house is more vacant. This tub needed repairs, but I'd NEVER do this fix in an occupied house, or one with pets... I'd put the fume nastiness at 10/10. Hopefully the results work out, but I wouldn't do this without PPE and moving out for a couple of days.

KirstenAnne,
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@ai6yr you just motivated me to get the touch up epoxy. Noticed a ding in my 4 year old shower base a couple weeks ago… do not want to let it get worse. 🤦‍♀️

ai6yr,

@KirstenAnne Yeah, better to fix it before it expands. I did a poor job of that on this tub, should have sanded out the rust and filled awhile ago. Better to keep it from this stage!!

ai6yr, (edited )

Used a 3M P100 with Multi Gas Vapor canister for this job.

"3M Multi Gas/Vapor Cartridge/Filter 60926 P100 may be used for respiratory protection from certain organic vapors, chlorine, hydrogen chloride, sulfur dioxide, chlorine dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, ammonia, methylamine, formaldehyde, or hydrogen fluoride, and non-oil and oil particulate concentrations up to 10 times the Permissible Exposure Limit (PEL) with half facepieces or 50 times PEL with quantitatively fit tested full facepiece masks. "

I can't see anyone doing this without full protection, that stuff is really quite potent.

mjausson,
@mjausson@mastodon.design avatar

@ai6yr Hence my comment about doing it when the house is empty. Good call on the PPE.

Fingers crossed that you'll end up with a good result.

ai6yr,

@mjausson Yep, definitely a "when the house is empty" option only. Well, as long as it sticks it will be better than what was there. I was going to leave the windows closed and heater on, but the fumes were way too much so the a couple of windows cracked for air flow and heater is off... If it takes 4 days instead of 48 hours to dry, so be it... (slow drying not an issue, but we'll see how things go). Application was within approx. spec temperature, at least.

jasonekratz,
@jasonekratz@social.lol avatar

@ai6yr “may be used for respiratory protection from certain organic vapors”. Sounds like it’s useful in the bathroom for regular use too. 😁

ai6yr,
trumpresistance,
@trumpresistance@newsie.social avatar

@ai6yr
I bet the end results will be worth it, you had guts to try!

ai6yr,

@trumpresistance We shall see, I'll report back....

tehstu,
@tehstu@hachyderm.io avatar

@ai6yr is that a protective coating, or also updating/changing the color?

ai6yr,

@tehstu Protective coating. There were a few rust pits and some issues at the bottom of the tub; this is an attempt at a band aid (instead of getting a new tub!!)

exkclamation,
@exkclamation@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr oh fun! We are looking to do the same with our old cast iron tub. Did you just paint? or was it re-porcelain covering?

ai6yr,

@exkclamation It's a epoxy paint covering. Mixed reviews, but seemed like it was worth giving it a try. LOTS of prep work to make sure it sticks properly, hopefully I did a good job and it works out!!

stevewfolds,
@stevewfolds@mastodon.world avatar

@ai6yr Curious. Don’t recall fumes from 2:1 marine epoxy.

ai6yr,

@stevewfolds Hmm, yeah, not sure why this has so much fume output.

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