Videos show Chicago police fired nearly 100 shots over 41 seconds during fatal traffic stop

Plainclothes Chicago police officers fired nearly 100 gunshots over 41 seconds during a traffic stop that left one man dead and one officer injured, according to graphic video footage a police oversight agency released Tuesday.

Five officers from a tactical unit who were in an unmarked police vehicle surrounded an SUV last month driven by Dexter Reed, allegedly for failing to wear a seatbelt. Video shows the 26-year-old Black man briefly lowering a window and then raising it and refusing to exit the vehicle as more officers arrived, yelled commands and drew weapons.

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

The police must have been very scared!

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Only the bravest cowards join the police force.

BigMacHole,

If random ARMED men ever Approach me I’ll be sure to NOT fight back in case they are Cops who can LEGALLY kill me!

Fedizen,

this is a firing squad

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

No mention in the Lemmy summary of this post of who shot first?

melpomenesclevage,

Its never excusable for police to shoot.

A police life is worth less than anything else.

Woht24,

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    melpomenesclevage,

    I hope I take at least two with me, and bring some measure of peace and justice to the world.

    I’m not really expecting to; kind of a terrible shot, but dreams are dreams.

    Cethin,

    I do agree they chose to put their lives on the line so should accept the risk before putting other civilians at risk. I also think police should generally be unarmed, because it’d force them to de-escalate and not give them the ability to easily end lives.

    That said, never? There are times where it’s OK. Even the most civilian friendly police forces in the world still occasionally see the need to shoot someone. There are people who just need to be stopped before they cause more harm.

    melpomenesclevage,

    there are people who need to be stopped before they do harm, and the only option is violence

    Cops and kapostanis are not people, dear.

    Cethin,

    Sometimes people hurt others besides cops…

    melpomenesclevage,

    Sure there are outliers and freaks, and in a society without cops they might still be a problem

    But in a society with cops, you need a microscope to find them in a graph, they’re thoroughly covered by the error bars.

    Cethin,

    What are you talking about? It’s significantly more likely that someone will cause harm to a non-cop than a cop, or that harm will be caused by a non-cop than a cop as well. The way policing works is totally fucked, but there is absolutely a need for something. 99.9% of the time it should be de-escalation, but to pretend like that 0.1% is nothing is so ignorant. You can hate cops and be reasonable.

    melpomenesclevage,

    I think a lot of violence is caused by the threat of escalation that cops put into every situation by being.

    Cethin,

    Sure, but what about when no cops are involved, which is usually the case?

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    No mention in your bio that you’re unable to read the article before commenting?

    CosmicCleric, (edited )
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    No mention in your bio that you’re unable to read the article before commenting?

    I did actually, which is why I came back and made my comment on this post.

    I’m purposely criticizing the person who made the summary of the post, as it tends to indicate trying to direct a conversation in a certain way, without expressing all the summary facts.

    LifeInMultipleChoice,

    Why would surrounding a vehicle with gunmen who get out of an unmarked vehicle be a proper response to not wearing a seatbelt?

    Imagine if we just sent the ticket to their house and didn’t hold up traffic with the dash/rear cameras like a speed trap would do. No officers in danger, no people feeling in danger.

    Unmarked vehicles in themselves are questionable. 5 officers in 1 vehicle… strange

    Blackmist,

    Woah there. The full charge was “not wearing a seatbelt while black”.

    This is standard procedure for such crimes.

    Passerby6497,

    Man, they’re really out there enforcing the laws against DWB, huh?

    CosmicCleric, (edited )
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    I never said any of that.

    All I stated was that the summary was crafted in such a way as to not present all the available facts to the readers.

    My understanding is a police officer was shot first, by the driver. None of that was mentioned in the summary.

    Do I believe the police forces throughout the nation have a huge problem that need fixing? Absofuckinglutely.

    But we’re not going to fix things if we don’t look at the whole truth of a situation, and only the partial truth.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    But we’re not going to fix things if we don’t look at the whole truth of a situation, and only the partial truth.

    That’s what a summary is tho … simply a portion of the whole.

    The complete story is in the article. Therefore read it first before commenting.

    zerog_bandit,

    Nah, now I just think that people advocating for police reform are fact manipulators and don’t tell the whole story.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

    You were never going to care in the first place, so what you apparently only just now think does not matter.

    Right wingers love this tactic, “Oh Id totally care about X issue but [some minor nitpick] now i wont”

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s what a summary is tho … simply a portion of the whole.

    It’s supposed to summarize the whole, not just one part that makes one side look favorable.

    The complete story is in the article. Therefore read it first before commenting.

    I did. This is a second time I’m telling you that now.

    Jax, (edited )

    brief statement or account of the main points of something.

    No, it is not simply a portion of the whole.

    Therefore read it first before commenting.

    I sincerely hope you are an AI or a child because you’re demonstrating an incredible lack of awareness here.

    Edit: imagine disputing this, Jesus christ you people are dumb.

    LifeInMultipleChoice,

    I never said you said those things, I said them. That’s why I used the term imagine. Sorry if you thought I was trying to pick at your words.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    I know. Your response wasn’t matching what I said. Thanks for clarifying.

    LifeInMultipleChoice,

    It’s alright, we are getting down voted both for having a civil conversation with possible opposing views (haven’t discussed) lol

    4grams,
    @4grams@awful.systems avatar

    it was the acorn.

    ChaoticEntropy,
    @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

    I wish we lived in a world where we could readily believe this statement.

    The Civilian Office of Police Accountability said preliminary evidence showed Reed fired first, injuring an officer in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on the city’s West Side.

    Rather than assuming that they probably shot their own officer in their excitement.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty sure the cameras that they were wearing caught the first shot being fired.

    Also the angle of attack of the shot that hit the officer could point back to where the shot came from.

    PopcornTin,

    Still not good enough for our narrative.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Elaborate?

    CrowAirbrush,

    The audio isn’t all that clear but i heard a returning: “what is going on?” And a lack of an answer followed by excessive firearm usage.

    I have a feeling this person, same as the black guy from another video that refused to stop as he was convinced cops came to execute him and decided to pull into a gas station first…kinda knew what was going on by the energy the cops give off.

    If you want someone to co-operate you pull them over, explain the situation and there would be no need for firearms. But if you charge someone like wild bulls wanting to make a kill, people are gonna know…it’s instinct.

    I’e also seen this in a video where a guy got shot in his own house where two cops were yelling opposite commands and killed him for not co-operating, the worst part was when he knew he was fucked because they didn’t have their shit together. He was asking for clarity and bang bang bang…definitely cleared it up tho, but that shit ain’t right.

    Stop murdering people, please.

    crossmr,

    The audio isn’t all that clear but i heard a returning: “what is going on?” And a lack of an answer followed by excessive firearm usage.

    Then you aren't listening that close or watching the video at all. They repeatedly tell him to stop rolling up the window and get out. The first thing you hear him say is 'okay okay' at 0:21. After he says okay okay, they back off to give him space to step out and he then he turns and shoots the cop on the passenger side.

    I have a feeling this person, same as the black guy from another video that refused to stop as he was convinced cops came to execute him

    He was a felon up on illegal weapons charges who had an illegal weapon. Trust facts, not your feelings.

    joel_feila,
    @joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh no, cops are trained to yell different orders so you can’t cooperate.

    melpomenesclevage,

    This is why you shouldn’t bother to obey. Cops stop you, assume kill or be killed.

    zerog_bandit,

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    melpomenesclevage,

    I mean, if they’re gonna kill you, why not?

    zerog_bandit,

    It’s… Instinct… To shoot at police? I’m sorry but I’d honestly want anyone who’s instinct is to shoot at law enforcement to be executed on the spot.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Call a cop to your house to help your disabled kid? Theyre dead. Call a cop to do anything and some innocent person or dog is going to end up dead. Cops are criminals.

    Makes sense people are going to defend themselves against legal execution gangs.

    chiliedogg,

    These weren’t uniformed police.

    If a bunch of plain clothes people charge at me with guns I’m not going to assume they’re police and cooperate.

    fmstrat,

    The post description is a bit biased. Reed fired on the officers first. Without that fact, this is terrible. With it, it’s terrible but understandable (to an extent).

    Madison420,

    You’re not reading, there’s no evidence he shot at all just that there was a gun recovered and a police department who for years ran an illegal blacksite interrogation prison claims he fired first.

    Who to believe… who indeed.

    fmstrat,

    The Civilian Office of Police Accountability said preliminary evidence showed Reed fired first, injuring an officer in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on the city’s West Side. Then four officers returned fire, shooting 96 rounds.

    Understanding there is no clear footage showing he fired first, and I’m not saying I believe one way or the other, but it will be interesting to see the full set of bodycam footage. OP left this out of the overview.

    Madison420,

    Preliminary evidence which is officer testimony, they go over this.

    crossmr,

    All the bodycams have been released. There is absolutely no evidence that any of the cops fired before Reed. You can see almost all the cops in the one angle in the article. The rest of the angles don't show it any different. There is also the angle of the cop who got shot on the other side. It's clear as day that Reed fired first.

    fmstrat,

    And this was verified by both internal investigations, and external inspector, and includes video evidence from a neighbor’s security camera. Commenter seems to think this article is the only coverage.

    I’m all for investigating the rationale for the stop, and major excessive force after the fact, and that’s where focus should be.

    fmstrat,

    Not true. See other responses.

    Madison420,

    There’s no evidence, they say ballistics, which are collected and determined by whom? The police, is police testimony, I’m sorry you don’t understand the nuances of the language used.

    fmstrat,

    Have you actually read any other article? Let’s pick one of thousands: cbsnews.com/…/dexter-reed-chicago-police-shooting…

    Specifically, COPA is uncertain how the officers could have seen this seatbelt violation given their location relative to [the] vehicle and the dark tints on vehicle windows

    Bad.

    Body camera footage shows one officer fired at least three shots after Reed fell to the ground, but was still moving.

    Real bad.

    While the Reed family’s attorneys did not directly address COPA’s assertion that it appears Reed fired first, they suggested he feared for his life when five plainclothes officers surrounded his vehicle pointing weapons. They also said the officers never announced themselves as police during the incident.

    Also bad. Read that first sentence a few times. Even the family realizes there are plenty of things wrong with what happened that deserve swift rectification without focusing on the one element there appears to be evidence from.

    Do you understand what COPA is? Do you understand they are civilian, and not the police?

    Another one: cnn.com/…/dexter-reed-chicago-police-shooting-vid…

    "Review of video footage and initial reports appears to confirm that Mr. Reed fired first, striking the officer and four officers returned fire,” the office [COPA] said.

    I’m 100% for reform, but either you’re down the echo chamber and refuse to read, or you’re trolling. Either way this is the last bit of education from me.

    Madison420, (edited )

    Point to one piece of evidence in that story that is not based on testimony.

    In fact every quote you’ve provided makes it more clear there is no evidence.

    Ed: your source

    It was not immediately clear from CNN’s review of bodycam footage who fired first.

    The Civilian Office of Police Accountability (COPA) is an independent city agency which has the authority to investigate allegations of police officer misconduct and police shootings.[28] It can make recommendations about disciplinary action and department policy, but cannot take such action itself.[27][29] COPA was created in 2016, replacing the former Independent Police Review Authority.[29]

    Tell me, if a lawsuit is successful who pays? The city does! So who has a inherent bias? The city!

    You’ve clearly never been to Chicago or pay attention to its policing.

    They don’t have 4 agencies and a consent decree because they’re super honest or good at their jobs.

    unreasonabro, (edited )

    keep doin them guns murica, they solve all the problems

    eventually

    PriorityMotif,
    @PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

    I guarantee that cop on the far side either shot himself in the wrist or got shot by a coworker.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f6d22e0c-3ed9-4173-8831-50645c844ce0.jpeg

    agitatedpotato,

    Yeah this sounds like an execution.

    xkforce,

    It is fucking sad and predictable how many people there are in this thread that defend the cops here.

    You dont get a prize for being the bestest bootlicker.

    jkrtn,

    The prize is being kicked in the teeth slightly later than everyone else.

    melpomenesclevage, (edited )

    Well you do. You get shot after all the other easy targets. (Still before the insurgents in the hillsl

    boaratio,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/41e87f5a-6a76-486e-9072-a17a3cfce843.jpeg

    p5yk0t1km1r4ge,
    @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

    You sure its a prize they want? Maybe they just like the taste? Maybe they enjoy pig dick every day for breakfast.

    zerog_bandit,

    You also don’t get a prize for calling for the execution of cops, and I’m seeing a lot of it in this thread.

    some_guy,

    If a bunch of people in plainclothes rushed my car with guns drawn I’d think I was being robbed.

    Ilovethebomb,

    This comment doesn’t make sense to me. Even if he did think he was being robbed, he’s outnumbered four to one, and they already have guns drawn.

    Opening fire isn’t a winning strategy even then.

    bbuez,

    So police can act with the professionalism of criminal organizations, got it

    Ilovethebomb,

    I’m curious how you reached that conclusion?

    can,

    Because you’re saying they can behave the same way without facing consequences?

    Ilovethebomb,

    When did I say that?

    stembolts,

    I have a feeling you’re playing dumb for engagement, because truly no one can be as clueless as this. I suspect everyone else feels the same which is why your question is being ignored. Most of your post history is similarly unaware. There will be no further reply.

    Ilovethebomb,

    Didn’t answer the question, of course.

    melpomenesclevage,

    No, they are not capable of that level of coordination discretion rationality discipline or community ties.

    AngryCommieKender,

    Of course. All cops are criminals. Every single cop has at bare minimum been an accomplice and an assaultant. Most are also thieves, murderers, and/or rapists.

    melpomenesclevage,

    You wanna know who’s trafficking kids? Who’s bringing in the day’s big moral panic drug? Who’s selling illegal guns?

    Always the cops. Literally every time.

    vardogor,
    @vardogor@mander.xyz avatar

    is laying down to let them shoot and rob you the winning strategy?

    Ilovethebomb,

    Between that and dying, it’s the better of the two.

    vardogor,
    @vardogor@mander.xyz avatar

    being shot often entails dying.

    Ilovethebomb,

    I didn’t say otherwise?

    melpomenesclevage,

    shoot and

    Ilovethebomb,

    Hey, take it up with the person who laid out the idiotic scenario.

    randombullet,

    You mean like Charles Kinsey?

    melpomenesclevage,

    Its taking the bastards with you. Or trying to take one at least. A last heroic act is worth a salute at least, if he actually did draw first, or even had a gun.

    Ilovethebomb,

    Are you genuinely describing shooting at police as “heroic”?

    Yikes.

    melpomenesclevage,

    Anything that gives us one less cop gives us a better world.

    zerog_bandit,

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    melpomenesclevage,

    So your rebuttal is to suggest that they’re violent thugs who kill at the slightest provocation and have no regard for human life or ability to talk shit out?

    Supporting my point?

    Ilovethebomb,

    They really didn’t think that reply through, did they?

    melpomenesclevage,

    It was probably a cop. It has no ability to think. Only rape torture and kill.

    Ilovethebomb,

    You genuinely need help.

    badbrainstorm,
    @badbrainstorm@lemmy.today avatar

    You seem to have gathered that the murder victim shot at the police. Unless you have another source, you are clearly not reading the linked article. It states that no footage shows that the victim ever shot, or had a gun in possession. States that he had no gun on or around him when they cleared the slumped body. The did however find a (most likely planted) gun in the car later. Do you need a class on reading comprehension or something?

    Ilovethebomb,

    Do you see the right hand window blow out, right before shit hits the fan?

    What do you think could have caused that?

    some_guy,

    I said nothing about pulling a gun nor firing. Only what I would think if a bunch of people ran up with guns.

    Ilovethebomb,

    And we’re going to ignore the context of the article you’re commenting on?

    some_guy,

    I don’t have any idea what you’re trying to say, but whatever it is, I imagine we’ll disagree.

    melpomenesclevage,

    If they were all a specific kind of white guy, I’d assume I was being lynched and take as many as I could

    Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
    @Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

    You’d think with all the shooting they do cops would be better at shooting things. A hundred rounds for one dude? Even if he was an actual threat that’s a huge waste of money. Ammo is expensive.

    Ilovethebomb,

    He did fire at the police, you know. Pretty sure that counts as an actual threat.

    p5yk0t1km1r4ge,
    @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

    Swirl it a little, slosh it around and swallow it mate. You must like the taste.

    Ilovethebomb,

    Lol.

    100_kg_90_de_belin,

    Nearly 100 shots. Either they really suck at hitting targets, or they really like shooting people.

    Ilovethebomb,

    20 rounds in a Glock mag, five officers, basically all five of them put an entire mag into the guy.

    I probably would too, if someone was shooting at me.

    100_kg_90_de_belin,

    So you’re telling me that State-condoned violence is managed by people who are not better trained than a rando on the Internet.

    x0chi,

    You don’t expect a trained soldier to shoot all the rounds when he is being attacked for multiple reasons. For other reasons you should also expect that a trained police officer shoots in the best possible way. All agents firing all the rounds in the mag sounds like panic too me, and if it is then cops should be better trained. One thing is how we civilians would react, another thing is how a professional that has a license to kill acts. And men with license to kill panicking and firing all the rounds sure isn’t professional… so why we admit that can say “oh I’m my case I would do the same.”. They are professionals, they should act professional, they NEED TO BE professional or else shouldn’t carry a arm and a licence to kill.

    Ilovethebomb,

    Have you heard of suppressing fire? Soldiers fire a huge amount of ammunition without hitting anything.

    And as other commenters have pointed out, it’s not panic, it’s a strategy, keep firing until the threat is down.

    stringere, (edited )

    He fired at a group of dudes in civilian clothes driving regular vehicles telling him they were cops. Guess what more than tripled from 2019 to 2021 and continues? Car jackings and armed car jackings.

    They allege this was for a seatbelt. Weapons drawn for a simple traffic stop?

    Plainclothes officers, especially, should not be approaching people with a weapon drawn.

    Ilovethebomb,

    civilian clothes driving regular vehicles

    The vehicles had lights and sirens, and the officers were wearing body armour that identified them as police.

    The idea that he thought this was a carjacking just isn’t feasible.

    rimmedalpha,

    All of which can be easily purchased online by anyone.

    Ilovethebomb, (edited )

    www.amazon.com.au/…/B0BJTY34Y3/

    Soggy,

    Plainclothes police and unmarked cars should not exist (outside of, potentially, planned and warranted sting operations)

    oopy_soup,

    You are literally the only one defending these thugs. Just stop it.

    x0chi,

    Not so feasible that even the 60 minutes show not so long ago did a episode/piece just about a wave of robberies that their method was using police cloths, sirens on their vehicles bought on Amazon… This must be common enough for 60 minutes show to do a piece on it, and I bet people who seen it sure think it’s a thing that is happening. Not that I’m blaming 60 minutes, just saying that it’s common enough for a national tv show to pick on it for a piece.

    FilterItOut,

    Maybe… I still remember the national news piece about D&D being evil, and the national furor over satanic cults existing inside of day cares that had plenty of news coverage. Fearmongering isn’t a new millennium thing, it’s just gotten prolific due to the ease of the internet.

    squozenode,

    This is exactly why the “defund the police” movement is so popular.

    Traffic cops do not need to be armed.

    ryathal,

    Traffic stops should also be initiated by marked cruisers. If needed, plainclothes cops can assist, but they shouldn’t be the first contact.

    Passerby6497,

    I’m not stopping for an unmarked without being on the phone with 911 to make sure they’re a real cop.

    Growing up, we had a string of assaults in a podunk city that was perpetrated buy some guy(s) who bought some blue/red lights and a siren. Hell, for a while even the cops were saying not to stop outside of a well lit area at night…

    ryathal,

    The problem is cops will shoot you for doing that too.

    Passerby6497,

    Well, hopefully getting shot in a well lit area means they can’t suppress the footage like they’ve done so many other times…

    x0chi,

    Specially traffic cops on a ego trip thinking they are playing Miami Vice

    melpomenesclevage,

    Unlimited budgets, they can’t care.

    crusa187,

    Not expensive enough. As the Chris Rock joke goes, maybe if bullets cost $10k per round we wouldn’t have so much needless gun violence.

    pedroapero,

    CBS video here: cloudflare-ipfs.com/…/QmTTSAar7HQSdLDULmg2VQMMwgj…

    FilterItOut,

    Does it have audio for you?

    raker,

    No, strangely enough.

    raker,

    Thanks for the direct video link! Makes me want to download it for some reason.

    fiercekitten,

    “Wear your seatbelt to be safe or we’ll shoot.”

    TheFriar,

    “He’s putting himself in danger! Open fire!”

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