Need some advice on IPTV providers and VPNs

Hey all, please don’t even think of replying here with suggestions for actual IPTV providers, just DM me if you’re willing to make a suggestion. Otherwise, let me know if the below situation is normal.

Long story short, I’m new to IPTV and looking for one that does US sports. I just got semi-scammed (at least, misrepresented) by a provider I found on one of the forums.

I spent most of my trial period struggling to get a VPN to work (and thought I did). Then I paid for six months, which was dumb as shit.

I picked up PIA to replace Mullvad, since that one has an Apple TV client and I’m Mac/iOS/tvOS. That broke IPTV on all devices. And why? Because these guys block VPNs due to “other IPTV provider want to steal our streams from their servers” broken English BS excuse that I can’t even make sense of. What does one thing have to do with the other?

They want me to use their VPN, which is based on either Outline or Surfboard (the second doesn’t even have a website). On Mac, that would mean using Tunnelblick to run their custom config file. The best part is:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/774b828a-0437-44a4-a24b-a5c86794bde5.png

In the chat, I asked what I should do on Apple TV. That’s when they ghosted, since they have my money now. And then came back to say “Oh, actually we DO allow VPNs, it’s your ISP that’s blocking them.”

So how come I can go anywhere and do anything on PIA, except use IPTV?

I’d love to know if that situation is abnormal. Am I right that streaming a bunch of IPTV using some rando’s config file (or in the clear) is batshit? This is all on the high seas so I gotta use a VPN, right? Am I just misunderstanding the technical issue due to the language barrier?

Experienced IPTV sailor perspectives welcome 🏴‍☠️

anzo,

Aren’t premiunize and realdebrid mentioned in the wiki? I heard of them so many times… Never used them tho. They should work with VPN, or so I thought. And you can pay with paysafecard to be safe about scammers.

Algernon,

Those are not for live sports right? They’re more premium direct download services?

Qkall,
@Qkall@lemmy.ml avatar

vlc or most media players (i use kodi with iptv merger/simple/manager) and github.com/iptv-org/iptv

free!

Algernon,

github.com/iptv-org/iptv

Thanks! Do you know if all those are non-commercial TV? If I’m looking for certain commercial channels, how can I know?

Qkall,
@Qkall@lemmy.ml avatar

some channels but not all. uh kodi madtitan for others ;)

AnAnonymous,

Get a Xiaomi TV Stick/Box and forget about using Apple for IPTV/VPN stuff, good luck.

Algernon,

That’s not on the menu. The only question is if it’s expected that I wouldn’t be able to use a VPN with IPTV or if it’s just these guys.

AnAnonymous,

You can use IPTV WO a VPN, but I don’t recommend it, depending on which country are you in it could be dangerous or not.

If you want to be able to pirate freely you should avoid Apple devices.

Algernon,

Yeah, this isn’t quite the direction the thread should go in, since I’m using the stuff I’m using. And no offense, but with 30 years on the seas, it’s pretty lol to hear “don’t use Apple if you want to pirate freely.” I appreciate the heads up about VPNs though!

AnAnonymous,

In my humble POV the problem about Apple devices it’s the closeness of their software, not allowing to download apps outside the app store and no sideloading it’s totally a “no thanks” for me if I want to use the device for whatever I want to use it, that’s why I avoid using that brand and why I suggest anyone who want to pirate WO too much hassle to avoid it too.

I believe it isn’t even easier to use a private DNS or VPN what it’s supposed to be legal on Apple devices.

Whatever for the fraction of the price you are paying for the device you can easily go for something more pirate friendly, I would suggest you to sell the Apple device, there are usually a lot of people who will hype and buy it pretty fast, and buy a cheaper pirate friendly device and some beers.

Anyway good luck!! ✌️👍

Algernon,

Why’d you type all that out, what was the point?

AnAnonymous,

My point it’s if you want to use IPTV and VPN WO trouble I suggest you to use Android instead of iOS, I guess Apple is not ok about IPTV, VPN or even private DNS running on your device, I believe your problem it’s on the platform you are using, not in your ISP, VPN or IPTV provider.

rebelsimile,

I believe it isn’t even easier to use a private DNS or VPN what it’s supposed to be legal on Apple devices.

You’re entitled to your POV but Apple devices (including an Apple TV) can all use private DNS servers. I don’t run a private VPN so I can’t attest to that but of course MacOS can run normal VPN software and custom VPNs. Where are you coming from with this?

Algernon,

It’s just shitposting, he doesn’t understand how VPNs work or that it’s not hard at all to use them on Apple. He wants that sweet dopamine from the “me too” posts.

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