@darth I just wish I could get people to understand that the answer isn't to switch to Apple who does the same thing, gives you less control, and tells you less of what they actually are doing.
I wish we had good alternatives. I find I have to have a bit of a balance. A slimmed down minimal gapps package with no bells and whistles. As far as I could tell trying to use it, MicroG hasn't even been worked on in ages and just doesn't really work on modern OSes.
@Kurt@darth 1. Apple does the stuff Google does. Escaping Google because you don't like the stuff they do to someone who does the same stuff they do with less control is... dumb.
The worst? I don't know about that. It does install some components. As I said, it was just the best I could do for a decent in-between compromise where I at least have a lot more control over it.
No. MicroG can be installed, but hardly anything seems to work and it's a pain even to get it setup.
@nazokiyoubinbou can you please explain that "lot more control" part? Seems like lot of your apps depend on undisturbed play sevices. Leading to bad microG experience. @darth
@Kurt@darth As for MicroG, a huge portion of how it works is insanely hard to get working. I never even got location services to work right even for simple things like checking weather (let alone stuff like maps.) I do need the ability to use maps (I am not a great navigator) and while I can possibly use a third party map app itself, it still needs working location services.
MicroG seems to only be good for getting super simple things like e-mail and etc going.
@darth@Kurt There isn't any truly 100% viable alternative. The best options would be using OSes built around open things. AOSP (LineageOS/etc) without any gapps installed of course can do that. You of course don't get all the stuff those companies offer like home controls, assistants, etc etc with stripped OSes though. /e/OS may be good though.
iOS is literally worse -- same stuff, but with less control or knowledge -- so it's pointless to switch if you don't like what Google does.
@darth@Kurt You literally switched from one of the biggest spyware in the world to the other biggest and one I'd argue that's even worse in its own way. That's what I'm trying to say. Apple keeps it more down low and doesn't directly state all they do plus just plain gives you fewer options to control it so people think they aren't doing things, but that's not really how it works. Just walk into someone's house and say "Hey Siri" for an example.
@darth@Kurt I seriously don't understand how jumping out of the frying pan into the fire improves the situation, but I guess if you like the fire better, alright.
If you really want to go all out there are options, but the fact is, the way all this stuff works, it will limit some access. The map thing was a problem for me personally with MicroG, but perhaps you may even have better luck than I did. It is supposed to be possible to get it work. Then /e/os and GrapheneOS give you options.
@darth@Kurt I'm not trying to delve into your personal stuff here. That's your business and I don't want to know. I just think you're going to end up just as bad off since you've simply duplicated the situation that you say caused you so much trouble before.
@darth@Kurt I do think the person who pointed out that trusting Huawei with all your personal info isn't actually a great idea either has a valid point there.
I can't tell you for sure what your best options are. Maps are tricky as I said myself. Theoretically MicroG can do location services, but I couldn't get it working right. /e/OS and GrapheneOS may be your best options. (If you haven't looked at GrapheneOS you should. It sandboxes and limits what the services can actually access.)
@darth That's probably the same for any custom rom then, it'll be an artifact of the fone in question. All I can say is good luck, and buy fairphone next time ツ
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