Mer__edith,
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This paper is really important, presenting empirical evidence of the imbrication bet. AI & the surveillance biz model. This is notable particularly given that most production surveillance tech is proprietary, its existence and use hidden from the public.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.15084?ref=404media.co

Mer__edith,
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By "surveillance biz model" I'm referring both to the data-centric platform biz model that emerged c. 1990s, & persists as the tech industry's economic engine, & the biz of provisioning surveillance systems in particular, which generally (as here) build on top of this paradigm.

paninid,
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@Mer__edith

Out of curiosity, in your view, which were notable data-centric platform biz models that emerged c. 1990s?

wndlb,
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@Mer__edith @skinnylatte (Learned a new word today. WHAT IS THIS—Readers’ Digest??)

slaeg,
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@Mer__edith Bruce Schneier wrote about these challenges in his article "The Internet Enabled Mass Surveillance. A.I. Will Enable Mass Spying" in Slate recently https://slate.com/technology/2023/12/ai-mass-spying-internet-surveillance.html

@carissaveliz is always a good source for

Mer__edith,
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@slaeg @carissaveliz Yes, Carissa is great Good to see Bruce echoing what she, the authors of the paper, and many others have been saying.

kkarhan,
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@Mer__edith The only winning move is to refuse to contribute, buy and use and to demand & as well as !

Mer__edith,
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@kkarhan Sure, except generally we are not the customers/users of surveillance tech--we are the subjects of its use, and it's not up to us.

kkarhan, (edited )
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@Mer__edith Well, it is up to us, by boycotting businesses that produce, research, use, employ, support, sell or buy that tech as well as consequently only accepting tech and solutions that make it hard if not nearly-impossible to do these kinds of ...

This necessitates everything to be 'd and properly and refusal to use any and/or solution whatsoever...

Mikal,
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@kkarhan @Mer__edith

So, live in a cave, then? The burden of surveillance self-defense should not fall to individuals or require us to restrict our participation in society. I shouldn't have to wear weird makeup to foil facial recognition cameras just to go buy some food at the grocery store. "Boycotting" that store only works if you have multiple options and if all those options aren't also using facial recognition software. And the Ring doorbell cams and automatic license plate readers that tracked you on the way to the store? Can't exactly boycott those. Surveillance is privacy pollution and needs to be regulated (out of existence, imo) just like air or water pollution.

These are policy choices, not personal ones.

kkarhan,
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@Mikal @Mer__edith OFC not.

Vote for people who are against #MassSurveillance and if they don't exist, candidate!

Refuse to participate in #SurveillanceCapitalism to the maximum extent possible!!

Noone forces you to use #Govware (i.e. #Windows) or buy #iPhones or #AmazonEcho devices...

And if you need help finding #alternatives, sites like @alternativeto / https://alternativeto.net exist that allow you to filter for what you want...

kkarhan,
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@Mikal @Mer__edith And yes, and should be harder than DIY machineguns shooting carfentanyl-laced bullets.

Consider supporting your local group my mapping in your area...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GCsd2TJKjQ

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