leigh,
@leigh@ottawa.place avatar

I think we can all agree that if Reddit’s recent bullshit ends up meaning people go back to running old school forums it’ll be the absolute funniest possible outcome

foolishowl,
@foolishowl@social.coop avatar

@leigh Ultimately, online communities are communities. You can have an online community flourishing on old message boards the same way you can have a good party with friends in a basement with smelly old sofas.

devnull,
@devnull@crag.social avatar

@leigh forums haven't gone forever, a bunch of next gen forums took over where they left off and kept modernising. Check out @nodebb 🙂

integration is in the works too!

silmathoron,
@silmathoron@floss.social avatar

@devnull @leigh @nodebb that looks fairly nice, good find!

devnull,
@devnull@crag.social avatar

@silmathoron @leigh @nodebb hehehe thanks, but it wasn't a find 😶

In all honesty I built it 😅

silmathoron,
@silmathoron@floss.social avatar

@devnull @leigh @nodebb haha, congrats, then!

annaleen,
@annaleen@wandering.shop avatar

@leigh if we brought back the animated gif, we can do anything

creachadair,
@creachadair@mastodon.social avatar

@leigh It has been interesting watching them come to grips with the fact that most of the communities they host are only there because they're more convenient than running your own nonsense. Reddit got a big pool of attention to market by paying wages in hosting. Turns out if you start asking your workers to instead pay you for the privilege of hanging around the factory, they stop doing it.

eaton,
@eaton@phire.place avatar
leigh,
@leigh@ottawa.place avatar

@eaton lmao

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@leigh @eaton :phpbb: is still alive and well!

AimeeMaroux,
@AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social avatar

@ramsey @leigh @eaton No joke, I have honestly thought about installing a phpBB forum on my website but I didn't find any way for mobile users to conveniently browse it.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@AimeeMaroux @leigh @eaton Is the UI not mobile friendly?

AimeeMaroux,
@AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social avatar

@ramsey @leigh @eaton The one I was looking at did not have app integration that would notify users of new replies etc. akin to, say, the Discord app. And I think that is needed for mobile only or mobile first users to engage.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@AimeeMaroux @leigh @eaton Ah, yes. I wasn’t thinking about notifications. I guess you would need a dedicated app with push notification functionality for that.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@AimeeMaroux @leigh @eaton This looks promising. It’s not free, but the pricing looks reasonable. The board owners would need to install it, though. https://phpbb.pro/pushnotifications

AimeeMaroux,
@AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social avatar

@ramsey @leigh @eaton That is very reasonable pricing indeed and as I understand it, it works on mobile without having to install an app? 👀
The board owner would be me, so that wouldn't be a problem 😁

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@AimeeMaroux @leigh @eaton That’s what it looks like. It appears to use the built-in browser notifications system (on both desktop and mobile). I’ve never seen notifications from a mobile browser, though, so I’m not sure how well it works.

AimeeMaroux,
@AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social avatar

@ramsey @leigh @eaton I just tested it. I can enable it on desktop but it doesn't work for me on mobile. Might be my browser or settings but the option to enable browser notifications just doesn't show up at all, not even in desktop mode.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@AimeeMaroux @leigh @eaton It looks like the Push API is disabled by default in mobile Safari, if that’s what you’re using. Here’s how to turn it on: https://www.xda-developers.com/how-enable-safari-notifications-iphone/

NerdRage42,

@eaton @leigh this made me laugh so hard. I ran one of these for a Robot Chicken fan site....until my stupid ass couldn't figure out how to wipe the spam attack on it so I just gave up and deleted the whole thing.

leigh,
@leigh@ottawa.place avatar

@NerdRage42 @eaton a classic way forums end!!

NerdRage42,

@leigh @eaton oh man. It was the worst. I was at a point where it had spread out of control and users were miserable and I apologized one last time and said I was in over my head and then ≈BLIP≈ Gone.

TonyYarusso,

@leigh I’ve seen more than one link to Usenet topics…

christa,
@christa@void.holdings avatar
aspleenic,

@leigh welcome to mastodon

Enema_Cowboy,
@Enema_Cowboy@dotnet.social avatar

@leigh
Time to bring back FidoNet.

kierkegaank,
@kierkegaank@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@leigh and an upgrade of the user interface

clarkjrasmussen,

@leigh What do you mean, "back to?"

bugbear,

@leigh I wonder if Reddit starts deleting posts by mods linking to their new forums (if they decide to move somewhere else) in similar way birdsite doesn't like when you link to other platforms

NafiTheBear,

@leigh they might sadly move over to discord even more which is the worst possible outcome.

PetrichorSquirrel,

@leigh funniest and best 🙃

outofcontrol,
@outofcontrol@phpc.social avatar

@leigh @ramsey Advocating to my clients they should run their own forums is often met with skepticism, doubtful this kerfuffle will change anything. Unfortunate.

ajkandy,

@leigh Not just forums, actual dialup BBSes

beforewisdom,

@leigh
@timberwraith

I don't understand why you would think it is funny, beyond laughing in schadenfreude.

Web boards were just as good for discussions. The only down side is that they were harder to create and promote than subreddits.

nf3xn,
@nf3xn@mastodon.social avatar

@leigh Anyone know - is there an ActivityPub equivalent of phpbb, vBulletin?

(except maybe not security hot garbage, just wondering if anyone has built anything or ported the old stuff to support the protocol)

I am assuming that LemmyBB is the nazi software.

Orbit - Another forum software that supports ActivityPub.

Frontend is in Typescript, backend has Redis + PostgreSQL.

Sekhen,

@leigh
It's already happening.
But it's federated now.
Https://join-lemmy.org
Named after one of the hardest hard rockers ever.

n3wjack,
@n3wjack@mastodon.social avatar

@leigh phpbb FTW! 😂

devpanda,

@leigh Mailing lists would be better

lumiworx,
@lumiworx@mastodon.social avatar

@leigh ... As a moderator and admin of a long-running traditional forum, I can assure you that they haven't disappeared because of reddit appearing as a platform, nor diminished in the wealth of knowledge they can provide... assuming that's what users are looking for.

And to those who expect it to be perfectly frictionless... no, they generally aren't served up by an app. So yeah, you need to make an effort.

100% of the connected world can join a forum without needing a phone at all.

Legionposting,

@leigh best ending

Jamesboswell,

@leigh

Forums = socialism
Centralised monopolies = conservatism 😅

foo,
@foo@fosstodon.org avatar
chad,

@foo @leigh didn't Kevin Rose lose a ton of money when his bitcoin pictures were hacked?

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