box464,
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A takeaway from the is people need ways to make money here.

Very little funding reaches fediverse developers. Regardless, they push forward because they believe in this idea.

Not to mention users that want to make a living in this space.

I support fedi projects and the people making them, even when those investments make it more expensive to be here.

It's worthwhile. It's not enough.

Wish I had a solution. But I'm happy to offer support to those that do, and hope you will too.

angdraug,
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@box464 Fact. I, for one, gave up on my hope of making even a minimum wage level of money from running and moderating a Mastodon instance.

Allowing your social experience to be ruled by the privileged few who can afford to work non-billable hours isn't much of an improvement over it being ruled by a handful of billionaires.

PythonLinks,
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@box464 I am a big believer that the needs to become an economy in order to grow rapidly. I know that people are against centralised monopoly corporations advertising here, and tracking, but i really hope that we learn how to allow small companies to advertise.

For example could I pay to show my CV to people who follow ?

box464,
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@PythonLinks Hmm the interesting question is, WHO would you pay? The ad would be federated to many instances. You could pay to have it show unfederated, locally on instances with communities that are related to your product, maybe. Or, instance admins could attach to an ad relay for specific topics, and they get paid for click throughs (oof, gonna hear about that just for suggestion it). Would be a god way to support your instance tho.

PythonLinks,
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Here is a proposed business model for the fediverse.

I would offer $100 to my server admin, and the server admin of the person who found me a new job. Paid 1 week after I started work there.

This would help job seekers. It would help the server admins. It would help companies, find people smart enough to get off of the corporate media. It would attract job seekers.
Win win all around!

What do you think?
Should I try this when I start looking for an job?

@box464

box464,
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@PythonLinks I'm not understanding how the admin would promote your CV to the FPGA tag on their server with the feature set that exists today. I think an official AP activity is needed for ads. That way each instance, or even each user, can intake them or dump them, whatever their preference. Oh or maybe use this Offer activity that already exists!

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-offer

PythonLinks,
@PythonLinks@mastodon.social avatar

@box464
My idea was that people could just boost cv postings as a way to generate revenue for their server.
As for activity pub, you are way ahead of me. An offer sounds perfect. I am offering my services.
Do I already see offers? Can I automatically promote or block them?

but thanks for being interested in this topic. There is too much negativity towards business on the fediverse. It harms us all.

julian,
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@box464 said:

Or, instance admins could attach to an ad relay for specific topics, and they get paid for click throughs (oof, gonna hear about that just for suggestion it). Would be a god way to support your instance tho

Oh lord I can see the backlash now. If you thought servers defederating over admin spats was bad, wait until you see hordes of admins blocking each other for even considering allowing the "ad relay" onto their server for money.

box464,
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@julian I was thinking something more along the line of Misskey's inline "ads" that are local only - they never got used that I have seen because...yeah...but it exists and aren't federated out. I think the idea was to use them for server donation campaigns.

https://misskey-hub.net/en/docs/for-users/features/ads/

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