fallenvalkyrie,

Stop calling it "Sideloading" and start calling it what it is "Installing a program"

Sideloading is a term made up to make users afraid of having choice...

gkrnours,
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@fallenvalkyrie
sideloading is how you put stuff like children in a car

vintprox,
@vintprox@techhub.social avatar

@fallenvalkyrie True. "Sideloading" makes it sound like you're doing something shady and unsupported, when in fact these programs are common wealth and, in congregation, are updated far more regularly than stock apps.

cassidy,
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@fallenvalkyrie I feel like there is value in distinguishing between “installing from a default, trusted source” and “installing from wherever.” Not that the latter should be discouraged, but it does have different implications.

fallenvalkyrie,

@cassidy there you go, you have one.

"default source" and "user source"

in the case of android, the default is Google, in the case of iOS it's Apple.

Any User source is whatever the user chooses to add, e.g. fDroid

cassidy,
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@fallenvalkyrie I don't really see F-Droid as sideloading, though I guess it technically is considered that? To me, sideloading is like… going to a website and downloading and installing an arbitrary app. So you'd sideload F-Droid because it's outside the default store, but then going forward, installing things from F-Droid is just installing them. Idk, it's a bit fuzzy, I guess.

vintprox,
@vintprox@techhub.social avatar

@cassidy @fallenvalkyrie

The confusion happens, because the term is wrong. I can't stress enough how much we are being gaslit to use words that make no sense, and "sideloading" happens to be one of them.

joshua,
@joshua@nozzi.social avatar

@fallenvalkyrie Waiting for banks to start charging "side-banking fees" to protect them from the shady consumer practice of using other banks.

fallenvalkyrie,

@joshua Oh that already exists.
Withdrawal fees, transaction fees and so on are exactly that.

joshua,
@joshua@nozzi.social avatar

@fallenvalkyrie But if they name them “side-banking fees" consumers will surely realize how dangerous the practice is and stick to one bank. 🧠

zleap,
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@fallenvalkyrie

It seems updates to Windows 11 will restrict users even further.

vintprox,
@vintprox@techhub.social avatar

@zleap To think that someone out there would be so dedicated to Windows as to pay to update from 10 to 11, just to restrict themself even further... @fallenvalkyrie

zleap,
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@vintprox @fallenvalkyrie

I am sticking with Mint, one of the young people at the stem group is sticking with Linux and Windows 10, I sent him the article posted ob here to what is planned for Windows 11 in this respect.

Problem is, people are probably not aware of alternatives or think they are too hard to use / install etc.

It is a challenge as a community we need to try and tackle without ending up down a rabbit hole of tech support.

faeranne,

@zleap @vintprox @fallenvalkyrie With windows 11 limiting what can run it so much, linux is becoming the only option for those who can't afford a brand new computer. I know I would be barred from doing any gaming if I was still stuck on windows.

bugaevc,
@bugaevc@floss.social avatar

@fallenvalkyrie it's like jaywalking

fatboy,
@fatboy@fosstodon.org avatar

@fallenvalkyrie I am sideloading this toot

evilcookies98,
@evilcookies98@dragonscave.space avatar

@fallenvalkyrie you have a point. In the case of computers, it doesn’t matter where the program comes from. You just install it.

irenes,
@irenes@mastodon.social avatar

@fallenvalkyrie well said. for something like thirty years of microcomputing, it was the ONLY way most software got installed.

irenes,
@irenes@mastodon.social avatar

@fallenvalkyrie it is not inevitable, necessary, or good that OS vendors think they get to decide how people use devices

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