soatok,
@soatok@furry.engineer avatar

It’s Time for Furries to Stop Using Telegram

I have been a begrudging user of Telegram for years simply because that's what all the other furries use. When I signed up, I held my nose and expressed my discontent at Telegram by selecting a username that's a dig at MTProto's inherent insecurity against chosen ciphertext attacks: IND_CCA3_Insecure. Art: CMYKat I wrote about Furries and Telegram before, and included some basic privacy recommendations.

http://soatok.blog/2024/05/14/its-time-for-furries-to-stop-using-telegram/

spud,
@spud@is-hardly.online avatar

@soatok looks like your post made it to /r/furry_irl :ablobfoxdundundunowo:
https://www.reddit.com/r/furry_irl/s/6wN4O5IlC1

soatok,
@soatok@furry.engineer avatar

@spud Thanks for the pointer!

spud,
@spud@is-hardly.online avatar

@soatok oh if you needed a pointer here you go
:revblobfoxreach: 0x7fffffffffff

Don't worry about that one - I have a whole stack of them :3

shalien,
@shalien@projetretro.io avatar

@spud @soatok You're close to running out of pointers still

mortonfox,
@mortonfox@furry.engineer avatar

@soatok Is there a good, secure chat service (that... ugh... supports sticker packs. Not a fan of sticker packs but furries seem to want those.) that does not require a phone number? Both Telegram and Signal have that problem of needing a phone number. While it is true that one can disable finding by phone number in Signal, that just looks like a workaround for a problem that should not be there in the first place.

soatok,
@soatok@furry.engineer avatar
arch,
@arch@floofy.tech avatar

@soatok @mortonfox matrix doe- oh you said good mb

gearlicious,
@gearlicious@rubber.social avatar

@soatok been using Shelter (https://f-droid.org/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/) for years to isolate (begrudgingly) Telegram on Android. Also, plug for @GrapheneOS as a good choice for a privacy/security focused fork of Android.

azonenberg,
@azonenberg@ioc.exchange avatar

@gearlicious @soatok @GrapheneOS The last time I had to engage with a community that only existed on Telegram I ran the PC version in a virtual machine.

garfieldairlines,

@soatok yeah good luck with Signal, I installed it two months ago and got exactly two (2) contacts, used it a single day and now it's just sitting in my Android Apps... ​:comfyshrug:​

volpeon,

@garfieldairlines @soatok The network effect is such a pain in the ass ​:akko_weary:​

ljrk,
@ljrk@todon.eu avatar

@soatok

> Finally, it’s trivial to setup a second Signal account using Twilio or Google Voice, so you can compartmentalize your furry posting from the phone number your coworkers or family is likely to know.
>
> The last two considerations were really what stopped furries (or queer people in general, really) from using Signal.

This! But also, you don't need to strictly speaking use a second phone number if you're fine with only using usernames, since Signal allows you to disable finding via a known phone number!

Settings -> Privacy -> Phone number -> Who can find me by my number

soatok,
@soatok@furry.engineer avatar

@ljrk It's more of a problem of "I don't trust people THAT ALREADY HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER"

ljrk,
@ljrk@todon.eu avatar

@soatok Huh, isn't that what I meant? To be clear, there are two toggles:

  1. Who can see my phone number if we're already Signal contacts

  2. Who can find my Signal by my phone number if they have that number already

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