jonoabroad, 14 days ago

@franksting I'm open to Hydrogen, just no one has come up with a convincing use - well for vehicles.

It's meant to be good for steel production*

I mean, I guess we could use it for air travel - i mean it's not like there is a history of bad things happening there.

• I am really badly paraphrasing who actually knows what he is talking about.

MattHatton, 14 days ago

@jonoabroad @franksting Hydrogen will good for stuff like replacing diesel in trucking - where you can build out a number of refuelling places specifically for it - your Linfoxes and Tolls and the like can incorporate it into the fleets and existing hubs. Better than batteries.

Doing that for passenger cars is...tricky, just becasue of the scale. And that batteries are much better, and electricity is already everywhere.

jonoabroad, 14 days ago

@MattHatton @franksting

There are already trucks that can do 1000 km on a charge.

To have Hydrogen stations, you are going to needs electricity, at which point it is cheaper to have a charging station

MattHatton, 14 days ago

@jonoabroad @franksting For sure. TBH, it'll be a bit of everything - that's how most of this stuff is going to work out.

Some will do the numbers and arrive at battery trucks, others will do the same and probably arrive at hydrogen. It's all about finding the best solution for any particular need.

jonoabroad, 14 days ago

@MattHatton @franksting

oh yeah, I find most of the arguments against electrification to be strawman.

When you have 50 bazillion ton mining trucks being converted to EV, it seems like most other land based vehicles shouldn't be too much of a problem.