Diplomjodler3,

And ads. Lots of ads.

danc4498,

Did they say ads?

olutukko,

it’s implied

danc4498,

Is it? If they’re going to make this available for a free/ad priced tier I could see showing ads. But not for the ad free tier.

olutukko,

it was mostly a joke but I wouldn’t be too suprised if they actually start showing ads too

elvith,

If it weren’t for those pesky content breaks every now and then, they could serve even more ads. Won’t somebody think of the shareholders?

freebee,

The ads are the content.

Diplomjodler3,

Those damn consumers are so entitled! Why can’t we just serve ads continually instead of having to produce expensive content?

9point6,

I’ve kinda wished services would do something a bit like this for a while:

One channel for new stuff, based on your recommendations—just gives you a load of random tastes of shows without you actively picking through things

One for stuff you rewatch. For example, if you’ve watched always sunny or peep show through a couple of times, put random episodes on this channel for when you just want something in the background

JimboDHimbo,

Gonna need some machine learning for this. How much AI in your streaming service are you comfortable with?

520,

As someone very hesitant about AI I'm comfortable with it. It's a streaming service, not my email inbox.

JimboDHimbo,

One step further: ai “enhanced” TV shows and movies

We still good, or you ready to start pitching a fit?

9point6,

AI and ML based recommendation engines in streaming services have been a thing for as long as there have been steaming services

JimboDHimbo,

Ok, how about ai enhanced TV shows and movies. Still comfortable?

9point6,

This sounds like a bit of a slippery slope fallacy, if you’re implying that a steaming service using a recommendation algorithm obviously concludes with sinister personalised AI brainwashing injected into my watching, I think you maybe should watch less black mirror.

If you didn’t mean that, we’ve been using AI in film and TV for ages now, the latest batch of Star wars films made extensive use of it. Hell, the huge battles in lord of the rings used a rudimentary AI system for governing all the entities in it.

JimboDHimbo,

I’m just working my way to asking if you’d watch personalized AI TV bruh, not purposely attempting a fallacy. I’d give it a look, maybe once or twice. Just to see 😂

MeatsOfRage,

For the rewatch, on Plex you can build playlists and shuffle them. I do this for my kids, one wants Bluey and the other wants Peppa pig. I let the random gods decide what comes on next.

dumbass,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

There was a chrome extension a few years ago called ottoplay that did something like this, would take your Netflix Hulu and YouTube accounts and set up channels like comedy movies and shit like that, would play random episode non stop.

brenstar,

Minus ad breaks, I missed this aspect of content consumption. Choosing to watch a random episode of a random show just doesn’t happen and I missed being able to just “see what’s on”. I spent a fair amount of time setting up random “channels” I can tune into that play random episodes from tv shows on my media server and it’s great.

bob_lemon,

A lot of newer shows cannot be watched randomly though because the episodes actually build upon each other.

If you take older shows like TNG or X files: you could easily jump back in after missing half a season. The episodes were written to be mostly self-contained, because missing an episode or two because of life was very very common. Season finales were often a major exception, and were therefore also majority advertised so people knew to plan around them.

If you write a show for streaming, however, there is no concept of “missing an episode”. So the writers are freed from that constraint, and subsequently write shows that are only meant to be watched in their entirety, in order.

Tamo240,

Interesting to see it as being freed from a constraint rather than a crutch that viewers can be relied upon to watch all episodes. IMO writing satisfying one episode arc that also makes up part of a wider arc is much more difficult, and many shows now really have just a single arc that only gets good in the last third, making it essentially a 6-8 hour movie rather than an episodic show.

Blackmist,

Yeah, you can definitely see a trend towards more HBO style shows as streaming took off.

I remember watching an episode of The Wire, and somebody else watched it with me and didn’t like it because they didn’t know what was going on and the story wasn’t resolved in an hour. I’m like 10 episodes in, and this ain’t Columbo.

dellish,

Let me guess: which channels you have access to depend on your subscription level? Fuck these jerks.

BeigeAgenda,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

And they make sure that you have to buy the full package to get what you want.

New movie releases only costs $10 per streaming on the platinum-full-extended-live-ultra-package.

notsure,
@notsure@fedia.io avatar

I'm old enough to remember the promise that cable TV was paid so you wouldn't have commercials...it lasted what, 6 months? The channels without commercials cost extra...le sigh

dantheclamman,
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

The predictable backstop of subscription plus the nearly limitless potential upside of ad sales is just too tempting in the long run for media companies. They get to have their cake and eat it too. Spotify, Amazon, Netflix and have all eventually given in, despite insisting they never would. Shareholder owned media companies will always gravitate to this model. It’s the only way to maximize quarterly revenue growth.

Couldbealeotard,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. It was pretty clear streaming services were always going to end up the same way from the start. Even YouTube has, although that was harder to predict when it was mostly 30s cat videos.

Ismay,

Pretty wild to want to add channel when:

  • their interface is garbage
  • their content is pretty lacking

If they play any “pay for that channel”, it’s insta unsub

TK420,

I’m already thinking about it. I can’t watch new content outside the service, so if I’m torrenting for long term storage regardless, why am I paying in the first place?

just_change_it,

The ads are coming! the ads are coming! -Modern Paul Revere

RGB3x3,

The most frustrating thing about their interface is that if you’ve already watched an episode of something, then try to watch it again, it’ll immediately minimize it to start the “next episode” countdown.

It’s been ongoing.

And Disney+ is so crowded with garbage now that they’ve integrated Hulu’s content into it.

MissJinx,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

I like to sail through the 7 seas: No ads, no monthly payments, all content in only one website. Best deal! Aye aye!🏴‍☠️

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

I always have trouble watching Disney streams. Bad quality, buffering, slow loading. I usually just pirate the show and switch to Plex because apparently I can run a better streaming service than Disney.

olutukko,

only reason I still have disney+ is because my cousin used to borrow it from me. then I stopped paying for it and he was too lazy to make his own account to he just started paying mine. I’ve had free disney+ for year and a half now

the_post_of_tom_joad, (edited )

Wow that kinda took an unexpected turn. Doing something nice does come back around sometimes huh?

olutukko,

for real. it still baffles me that he just didn’t make his own :D but sometimes nice things do happen

NightAuthor,

Same thing happened w my mom and Netflix. Except I still don’t use it

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve dropped all streaming services, well save for my YouTube Music/Premium subscription I got grandfathered into when Google Play Music was brutally murdered.

At this point, I’ll just find alternatives.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

How are these super low resolution screenshots taken? Is anyone still using phones with a screen resolution that low?

andrew_s,
@andrew_s@piefed.social avatar

This screenshot is a WEBP file.

I image it started life as JPEG, and then lost pixels every time it was re-uploaded. At some point, it was either converted into a WEBP file and uploaded to Lemmy, or Lemmy converted it into one. Either way, it always uses about 70% compression for WEBP files, so you end up with already compressed file getting compressed again.

I just tested uploading a WEBP file to Lemmy, and the picts-rs backend made it a) bigger and b) worse.

jnk,

Except WEBP, unlike (most versions of) JPEG, can be compressed without quality loss. This is probably a mix of reuploading a JPEG and a bad encoding by Lemmy’s side. It should be fixed if you uploaded an already webp encoded image, so lemmy doesn’t try to reformat it, but for a sequels meme it’s not worth the time

troglodytis,

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️ argh, matey

AA5B,

Disney+ has a problem where they are very strong but in very specific genres. I go for the Marvel and Star Wars stuff, but am not interested in kids or teens stuff. Depending on the details, this could make it nicer by filtering out the stuff I will never be interested in

BakerBagel,

Spoiler alert, but they aren’t gonna slash their prices so you only pay for what you want. They are gonna bill you yhe same, take away all your options, and then charge you another $4 a month for Marvel, and another $5 for Star Wars.

InternetUser2012,

Then they’ll make you watch commercials.

AA5B,

Probably, but they’ll lose a lot of people who keep their subscriptions.

Couldbealeotard,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

All they need is for the sum value of the price increase to be greater than the loss of subscriptions.

They have been removing shared accounts, and while the number of eyes have reduced, the profit has increased.

jkrtn,

Not enough to lose money overall. People are sleepwalking through life. We cannot get a general strike over healthcare, let alone a tiny boycott over prices.

WashedOver,
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

And they will package the Marvel with stuff you don’t want but make you pay for to get the Marvel and the same for Star Wars.

The high seas sure looks inviting again…

BakerBagel,

Yeah, i imagine it’s gonna be two tv packages, plus a “Princess” package that has all the classic Disney and Pixar animation movies, so the end result is that people just doubled what they pay for Disney+

olutukko,

I go there to watch simpsons and futurama and king of the hill and all that crap that I have seen like 10 times (for simpsons and futurama not enough) but it still makes me giggle when I’m high

PhreakyByNature,

I use it for Marvel and Star Wars too (especially with the somewhat renewed faith in live action offerings thanks to Andor),but also watch shows like Dave, The Bear, Extraordinary, Abbot Elementary, The Orville etc on Disney+. This is in the UK. I believe some of those show on Hulu where that service exists.

Kecessa,

They pretty much already have that though…

Blackmist,

Yeah, been that way for a while. I assume either this tweet is old as fuck, or they’re adding more paid for ones. Or some regions don’t have it that way yet.

The discoverability on D+ is awful as well. There’s loads of older stuff and all it wants to show me is shitty “reality” TV I couldn’t give a fuck about, and have never watched. I’m only on it now because the wife is halfway through Buffy and can’t remember where to find it again if I torrented it and I can’t be arsed with the aggro.

DudeImMacGyver, (edited )

I don’t mind this sort of setup on Pluto TV but it’s free so… Yeah.

Also, they do free streaming as well so you don’t even have to use the live TV function.

possiblylinux127,

Pluto is good but I wish they had an API

affiliate,

its so tiresome to have all these services constantly made worse. these days it feels whenever a new thing comes out, it has about two or three years before it’s run into the ground in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

and this kind of thing is also happening to movies/tv shows/video game franchises. it feels like no matter how good it starts, you only get (at most) 2 or 3 sequels before the executives get their hands on it and run it into the ground. sure there are exceptions to this, but they are few and far between. and its becoming even more common for shows/video games to simply disappear if the parent company decides to remove them from online stores/streaming platforms.

all around, it just feels like things are becoming less and less permanent

themeatbridge,

You’re describing capitalism. That’s literally what happens to everything when capitalism is unchecked.

“Hey, we’re getting pretty good at producing food. Let’s put corn syrup in everything and make cheap food addictive.”

“Hey, we just noticed that frightened people buy more guns. Let’s make sure criminals can always buy guns so that we are arming everyone!”

“Land is the one thing they aren’t making more of. Let’s drive prices up while interest rates are low so that people have to spend all of their income on rent or die in the streets!”

When profits are the only motivation, then products and services will only get so good before the investor class starts looking for ways to take advantage of leverage instead of innovation. Unregulated markets create opportunities for unbalanced relationships between producers and consumers, and it is always built on the lie that you can influence the markets by “voting with your dollars,” as though enshittification is what we want, what we deserve.

possiblylinux127,

Only for $300/month, with a 2 year contract

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

With ads!

Kusimulkku,

And endless options for renewal

ZombiFrancis,

This has been the plan for decades.

Telecom companies existed before the internet and have made every effort their television fiefdoms would have the right to own it as well.

Then again the only bastion of defense against this has been a parade of old ass people who don’t own computers and were handed a smartphone 15 years ago but only want campaign donations in exchange for not understanding the problem.

So it really wasn’t much effort at all to turn the internet into TV 2.0.

catch22,
mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

They’re really gonna make people start pirating out of spite lol

krush_groove,

Started a while ago, matey.

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