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Testy Trump lawyer gets crickets as he jokes about Congress members in court

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-cohen-hush-money-testimony/

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#TrumpTrial 🧵 Thursday 16 May 2024

Cross-examination of #MichaelCohen resumes, an opportunity for the defense to poke holes in his testimony & perhaps trip up or provoke the state’s key witness. The questioning of Cohen, #Trump’s fmr fixer, is the beginning of the end of Trump’s #criminal trial, which began April 15 & might conclude before Memorial Day weekend at this pace.

#law #CatchAndKill #conspiracy #ElectionInterference #HushMoney #MobTactics #NodFarter #StormyDaniels

Nonilex,
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Defense: You asked Schiller who to speak to on harassing texts & he says call me, then you call him back at 8:02 for a minute thirty... then you text him the number of the 14-yr-old... You said the Oct 24th call was not w/ …. “That was a lie."

Blanche suggests that Cohen was not reporting the payment to but reporting that he was being pranked by a teenager. (Seriously?)

Nonilex,
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, emphasizing his point, raises his finger & his voice gets higher. He is suggesting it is ridiculous that might have simultaneously reported a prankster to & told that a payment had been made.
(This whole thing is ridiculous)

Blanche is trying to get Cohen to crack, but he’s holding firm. “You can admit,” Blanche says, that you lied. “No sir, I can’t,” Cohen responds, sticking to his story.

Nonilex,
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scolds : “You did not talk to President on that night. You talked to about what we just went through.”

Cohen, calmly: "I'm not certain that is accurate." Adding, "I believe I spoke to Mr. Trump about the matter."

Blanche shot back: "We are not asking for your belief. This jury does not want to hear what you think happened."

Justice recesses the court for lunch until 2:15 PM US ET.

Nonilex,
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admitted into evidence ’s texts w/ a 14-yr-old harasser, which occurred on 24 Oct, 2016 until roughly 7:24PM, when Cohen wrote: “Please have your parent or guardian contact me before secret service reaches out them.”

Blanche is now driving home that Cohen threatened to turn the Secret Service on a prank caller who said they were 14 yrs old.

Totally irrelevant.

Nonilex,
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is now speaking directly to the about his longstanding relationship w/ .

is going back in time, asking Cohen about positive stories he had planted, not just about but also about himself.

He says that reporters would often call him or the asking for comment. He said he would immediately go to Trump’s office & they would come up w/a crafted response that he would take back to the reporter.

Nonilex,
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adds that it was his routine to advise about these matters, because if the resulting story was not to his liking, “it would cause him to blow up at me” & “it would probably be the end of my job.”

is trying to get Cohen to say that while working for Trump, he gave statements to reporters w/o checking in w/his boss. Cohen is refusing to concede this, & says that he would always talk to Trump about every story.

Nonilex,
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is trying to establish the idea for the jury that was a rogue agent who did things w/o consulting w/ -- which defense says is what happened w/the payment.

Blanche notes that Cohen often frustrated campaign ofcls w/statements he made to the press during the 2016 campaign. Cohen parries that by saying Trump had told them that Cohen reported to him.

Nonilex,
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said, "I would advise that that not happen."

lawyer said, "Your Honor, I have less than zero control over what is happening on anything or anyone that’s behind me when I am crossing a witness."

Nonilex,
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continues questioning about his relationships w/ reporters over the years naming Maggie Haberman of The NYT & Katy Tur of MSNBC.

Cohen confirmed that he communicated w/ reporters over the phone & via text, & he would occasionally record phone calls w/ members of the press w/o their knowledge, including former CNN chief Jeff Zucker.
(reminder NY is a one party consent state)

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also gets Cohen to say that he sent a recording of somebody else to Haberman when she was reporting on a story.

said he sometimes gave scoops to Haberman, who has covered extensively for years & wrote a biography of him.

Nonilex,
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Meanwhile …

🤬 Sen. says case 'doesn't make sense'

, supposedly a Democrat from West Virginia, told reporters today that 's trial "doesn't make sense."

When asked whether he believes Trump should be convicted in any case, Manchin responded that "there are 2 really solid cases: January 6 & Georgia."
"Everything else doesn't really make sense," he added as a reporter directly asked about the case in NY.

JFC! Manchin, get out of the way!

Nonilex,
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asks having specific memories of calls from 8 yrs ago. Cohen responds that the reason he remembers them is because he’s been talking about the conversations for 6 yrs.

Blanche digs in, asking if Cohen has been talking about the specific phone calls he has been testifying about for 6 yrs. Blanche is performing for & the jury laying his mock disbelief on thick, his tone is derisive & he’s acting as if Cohen's testimony is ridiculous.

Nonilex,
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previously testified that in June 2016, he was negotiating w/ The & over her story about having had an affair w/ . On the stand now, as digs in about whether he can remember a specific call from that year, Cohen says that seeing prosecutors’ other evidence has jogged his memory about calls he had back then. (That’s memory for ya)

Nonilex,
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asks about what it meant for to pay in "cash," noting that it did not necessarily refer to green paper money, but to a payment that was made directly & not through financing. Blanche is referencing the recording heard earlier in the trial in which Trump directs him to “pay in cash.”

Blanche asks Cohen if Trump often made deals to pay cash for buildings or properties.

Nonilex,
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may be suggesting that when referred to "cash" in that recording, he could have been referencing any number of payments.

(But the recording specifically
said “our friend David” meaning )

Trump aides & smile at this line of questioning w/ (maybe it was their idea)

Nonilex,
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notes that while has talked a lot about using Signal, an encrypted app that makes use of disappearing messages, many of the sensitive conversations that we’ve seen & heard about in this trial just took place over text.
(Probably because having not disappeared, they could be admitted into evidence. Duh.)

Nonilex,
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questions again on his interactions w/ reporters when he worked for .

Blanche asks about negotiations he had w/ ABC News reporter John Santucci regarding the story.

Blanche is restating his opening argument point that NDAs were typical among the wealthy & famous & that they were not illegal. (No one has said otherwise)

Nonilex,
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shows the contract that struck w/ . He gets Cohen to agree it’s a “perfectly legal contract.” He’s raises his voice for emphasis — trying to make the feel like this arrangement was business as usual.

It may be usual to have NDAs, but this was unusual for other reasons.

Nonilex,
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tries to undermine the relationship said he had w/ . He asks whether Cohen did work not only for Trump, but also for his family & the . Then Blanche notes that Cohen did not have a legal retainer to do the work. (He was employed but the TrumpOrg. A retainer would be redundant)

Nonilex,
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Prosecutors have said that 's reimbursements for the were fraudulently disguised as services, even though had no legal retainer. The point Blanche is seeking to make is: Cohen did legal work for years, & never had a legal retainer. (See above)

is also trying to minimize the fact that Cohen had no retainer agreement w/ Trump, suggesting NY rules don’t require it.

Nonilex,
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again asks about his relationship w/journalists. Cohen admits he lied to reporters in early 2018 & secretly recorded conversations w/reporters about Trump’s involvement in the HushMoney payment. ()

Blanche emphasizes when Cohen recorded reporters — early 2018.

Justice stops when Blanche says he’s moving to another area.

Nonilex,
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Defense team entered into evidence a statement from regarding a complaint, & highlighted the last paragraph.

“Just because something isn’t true doesn’t mean that it can’t cause you harm or damage. I will always protect Mr. Trump," the paragraph read.

Cohen apparently recorded calls w/ reporters in 2018 in which he pitched them on that statement.

Nonilex,
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Justice excused the .

is scheduled to return to the stand Monday for further testimony.

Court is out of session on Friday so that can attend his son Barron's high school graduation. (To Barron’s dismay)

The defense spent the whole day casting Cohen as a liar & got a few admissions that he had lied under oath (which was known), possibly casting some doubt on his testimony.

Nonilex,
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Prosecutors now have 3 days to prepare re-direct, when they will seek to build back up & refocus the jurors on the most important elements of their case & the actual charges for which they’ve presented mountains of evidence regardless of whether Cohen is a liar or not.

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