LucidDan

LucidDan, 3 months ago

@markwalker I have! With Django - ran into a few relatively minor issues but it did work. It still needs a bit of rough edges smoothed but overall it’s not bad. Not a huge difference in performance/cpu load, but noticeable.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@sabderemane @paulox I’ve been meaning to write up some ideas for ages and never get around to it 😕 one thing I haven’t seen mentioned yet:

• HTTPS. It’s almost default in the real world now, and it’s not that hard to do anymore (packages like trustme are helpful). We should at least have built in https support for dev runserver, even if it’s not the default. I would love to see a HTTPSLiveServer for testing too.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi Yes will be making the switch next week. Our usage is fairly simple, and we are pinned on the same version opentofu forked off, so not expecting much issues.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi This definitely is not the case for all pyproject based tooling options. I know poetry and hatch both depend on cffi which will require bcc + Linux headers etc, but PDM for example works without extra deps at all.

That said, I think alpine is not great for python projects in general, there tends to be a lot of stuff that will require extra build deps. I stick to -slim docker images these days (but that’s not always possible, I realise)

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi Interesting (but not in a good way), I see that’s non alpine in that linked article, so it’s not specific to that…but that post doesn’t seem to spell out what dependency triggered the error
I can only say that I build/deploy a LOT of pyproject based deploys and packages and iirc I’ve never run into any dependency for netifaces - fairly sure I would’ve noticed if it were required bc I avoid installing gcc in my docker images unless I absolutely need to.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi Ok, I managed to get a similar error message when installing homeassistant in a docker image, just for fun/experimentation because I was curious about this. It says:

“ERROR: Could not build wheels for ciso8601, cffi, multidict, which is required to install pyproject.toml-based projects”

Which does sound like those packages are required for all pyproject.toml based projects, but that’s absurd and absolutely not my experience. Misleading error message maybe?

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi I do use tox quite a bit, but never inside a docker image, so that might be relevant?

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi I think that error is actually saying “I couldn’t build these wheels, and building these wheels is required to install this particular project due to its dependencies, so I failed”. But it’s really easy to misread.

So I think it’s just a normal dependency issue (binaries aren’t available for this platform/python version) rather than a specific pyproject.toml related thing.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi For what it’s worth, my strategy for this is I use a multi-stage Dockerfile, I pre-build the wheels when I need to, then I copy those wheels into the final image that doesn’t have gcc etc in it. Not sure that’s useful in your use case, since it sounds like you want to avoid the build step entirely.

Something like this: https://gist.github.com/LucidDan/ea9d19e3980bc90cd8f568fb4149fd3f

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@xahteiwi I find them useful, but I don't think they actually truly simplify things. I sometimes think simplification is an entirely imaginary ideal - we don't really remove complexity, we just shuffle it around from one place to another. 😉

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@frank Nice! I did this last year. Zero regrets.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@hongminhee There are several, most of them just as good as each other but with some specific different flavours :) https://asgi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/implementations.html

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@webology In terms of naming, I have a package called “lh” (historical reasons - the initials of my old consulting company). These days I have this as a repo and a package on a private pypi. For client projects it’s usually vendored into the project so there is no dependency, but it makes it easy to update and keep track. All my cli scripts are prefixed with lh-, and I install them as console scripts so they’re easily available. Works out pretty well.

LucidDan, 4 months ago

@webology I’m not sure it’s a good solution, but one big benefit for me that I’ve found, is if I need to make changes to the scripts on a per project basis, I’m less likely to just hack it on that project , and instead will usually fix and publish a new version for all…prev I just had a “lh” folder (package) in each project and they slowly grew more and more out of sync with each other.

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@offby1 I think you want the long syntax of depends_on https://docs.docker.com/compose/compose-file/05-services/#long-syntax-1

Something like:

services:  
 prestage:  
 image: bash:latest  
 restart: "no"  
 command: |  
 sleep 10 && echo 'we are prestaging'  
 mainapp:  
 image: postgres:latest  
 restart: unless-stopped  
 environment:  
 POSTGRES_PASSWORD: verysecure  
 depends_on:  
 prestage:  
 condition: service_completed_successfully  
 required: true  
 restart: true  

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@offby1 Also I think this is not a stupid question, because this wasn’t even possible at all not so long ago - there wasn't really any way to control startup order in the docker-compose v3 spec.

I’m still not sure I’d trust it entirely, but then I don’t trust docker compose to start with so that might just be my prejudice showing. 😉

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@codinghorror The annoying trait of asking people to guess answers instead of just providing them. 😒😆

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@qoyyuum Ooh that’s a good one, thanks! Definitely going to keep a Bugfixes folder with the same sort of thing. Very nice to have when I hit an obscure issue in future and I forgot that I’ve already dealt with it before!

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@qoyyuum I’ve used MermaidJS before but didn’t quite fall in love with it…but I can see the utility.
The canvas stuff looks great, I’m looking forward to experimenting with it, especially on the iPad which I have a Pencil for, so might work well that way for me. I’ll make a note (ha ha) to take another look at MermaidJS as well though.

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@attacus Very sensible advice, thanks! In terms of actual usage I’ll probably do exactly that, and just start with Daily Notes first, and go from there. although it’s nice to have an idea of the scope I want to work towards too!

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@ghickman Ok interesting, thanks…this is actually quite similar to how I normally organise myself mentally… 🤔

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@georgedpr Thanks this seems to be a recurring theme in replies and makes sense!

LucidDan, 5 months ago

@drakakis Interesting, thanks. Most of my notes to date don’t actually live in markdown but I’d be happy to change that. And Vivaldi keeps coming up, I need to try it out at some point ! A built in note keeper sounds intriguing