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pinakographos, to random
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After a long slog, I've finished an initial test of this idea: a few of the longest rivers (depending on how you measure) in Michigan, modeled after the comparisons that were popular in the 19th century (e.g. https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3200m.gcw0013960/?sp=6&loclr=blogmap). When time/energy allow, will do more later. Your feedback is welcome! See this thread for a few bits of context, highlights, and some detail images.

amapanda,
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@Doudouosm 😍😍😍

amapanda, to random
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needs a tag to say “this cafe has a plugs where you can power your laptop”

amapanda,
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Thanks to @thibaultmol and @MapComplete for informing me of the tags service:electricty=yes/no/limited/… for whether there's a place to plug in your laptop in a cafe.

📝 <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:service:electricity>
It can be added quickly with this MapComplete page: :mapcomplete: https://mapcomplete.org/cafes_and_pubs.html

zverik, to random
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What I think happened when @linuxfoundation took Overture Maps:

Companies and foundations want to support OpenStreetMap. They see the huge community and the impact we make to the world. Foundations were made to support projects like ours.

But.

We already have a foundation. OSM Foundation.

They rightfully expect OSMF to support project grows, that is, to support mappers and communitiy and tools for editing and validation. Tools that would make Niantic stuff easily identifiable and revertable.

amapanda,
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@Melaskia @zverik @IvanSanchez this is why I love apps like @streetcomplete and @everydoor. They're highlighting another level of and making it much easier for people (incl me) to add that data.

There are many types of data, where we are far from complete

amapanda, to random
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How do I go about deleting wikidata items about me?
Someone has added some personal stuff to wikidata that shouldn't be shared like that. I tried to remove it, but they keep re-adding it. How can I get this personal data deleted?

amapanda,
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@russss I have very little patience for doing the wikimedia bueocracy faff (which I'm sure will be very US centric), so I'll keep the GDPR deletion request ready.
But I'm gonna at least try to be nice, and to try their beurocracy first. 🙂

joachim, to random
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@openstreetmap is there a way to make contour lines more visible? I find it very hard to see them in any of the map layers.

amapanda,
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@joachim the maps on OpenStreetMap.org are only available as raster images now, and there isn't a way to change them to make one feature more visible, sorry.

amapanda, to Dragonlance
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Quick calculation of the “Longest Roads in Europe” based on road number (OSM's ref) rather than road name (name) shows different results, with results that one expects to find.

here's everything ≥ 300 km.

amapanda,
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№ 1 is Russia's P-21 at 1,471 km, from St. Petersburg north to the Russia/Norway border.
№ 2 is Russia's P-22 motorway at 1143 km from outside Moscow south towards the Caucaus
№ 3 is Germany's A 7 north-south motorway at 961 km.
№ 4 is Norway's part of the E 6 at 952 km (this shows complexities with OSM tagging. the E 6 is v. large.)

amapanda,
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The Italian Autostradia Adricia (A18) is № 8 at 688 km. It's not even the longest in Italy anymore. The A1, at 759 km, is one place ahead.

amapanda, to maps
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All roads used to lead to Rome, now the longest road in Europe avoids it. 🤣

The longest road¹ in Europe in is the Autostrada Adriatica in Italy, at 774 km. It goes from Bologna to Taranto, and avoids Rome as much as possible by going along the Adriatic Coast of Italy.

¹ (ah, but how do we define “a road” 😉 🧵)

amapanda,
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I calculated this “longest road” from @geofabrik Europe extract.

I define “a road” here as a continuous sequence of OSM ways with a highway tag & the same name tag. osm-lump-ways generates this with one simple command:

osm-lump-ways -i europe-latest.osm.pbf -o euro-roads.geojson -f highway -f name -g name --split-into-single-paths --min-length-m 10000 --split-into-single-paths-by crow_flies

amapanda,
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The second-longest road in Europe is at 667 km from Moscow to St. Petersburg «Нева» which is the M-11 motorway. No, I don't know why it's called Нева in OSM. Wikipedia tells me that's a river… 🤔

amapanda,
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Here's the top 1000 longest roads in Europe (connected OSM highway's with the same name tag). Shortest is ~53 km long. (lots hidden behind others).

This shows some clear regional differences, which might have more with how data is mapped in , but might also reflect how different cultures name roads.

amapanda,
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Germany 🇩🇪, famously a fan of motorways, doesn't break into the top 1,000… 🤔
Spain 🇪🇸, Italy 🇮🇹 & Greece 🇬🇷 being also heavily represented.

amapanda,
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Algorithms that look for “the longest road” often find motorways. Makes sense. A government builds a new road across the country, gives it a functional, and boring, name, so it's the longest named road.

It just doesn't have any good toponomical story behind it!

amapanda,
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@jomo @alfons234 I wanna do one with ref next

seav, to random
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amapanda,
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@seav “this is not a p̶i̶p̶e̶ marker”

thibaultmol, to PokemonGO
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Interesting bit of related news:
Niantic, the company behind and have joined the overture maps foundation.

I don't mind them joining Overture... but it is kinda weird to me that they're not nor have they ever been corporate member of the OSMF... which is like.... Their entire business revolves around OSM yet they never contributed to OSMF.... and now they're paying Overture... hmm

https://pokemongohub.net/post/news/niantic-joins-overture-maps-foundation-gets-access-to-59m-pois/

amapanda,
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@freyfogle @thibaultmol
That's… a good point. 🤔

While someone like Developement Seed really Should Know Better™, it's possible Niantic didn't know. The OSMF has tried to have WGs for new Local Chapters, but I don't think there's any “OSMF Corporate Member Encourager”.

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