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Cripple. History Major. Vaguely left-wing.

Leate_Wonceslace,
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Donald Trump is Genocide at home and abroad.

Joe Biden is “only” Genocide abroad, and probably less of it.

Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden is a Vote against genocide.

No, it doesn’t matter that he’s an active participant in the apparatus that’s creating the genocide, because if he’s in office there’s less genocide. Which is the important part, and pretending otherwise is sophistry. If you abstain from voting, you are increasing the likelihood of more genocide and if you discourage others from voting, you are an active participant in the overall social apparatus that is probabilistically increasing the amount of genocide.

The utility calculation is dead simple: more votes for Biden in key states makes more genocide less likely, and discouraging people from voting for Biden makes more genocide more likely. Therefore, discouraging people from voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy and voting for Biden in battleground states is an anti-genocide strategy. You should vote for Biden unless you live in a solid blue state, and even then it’s not a bad idea.

TLDR: if you encourage people to not vote for Biden, that’s supporting genocide. Accelerationism never works for us.

Tampa police chief Lee Bercaw would ‘retire’ — and still earn a $241,000 salary as chief (www.tampabay.com)

The city has drafted an agreement that would allow Lee Bercaw, a 28-year veteran with the force, to[retire and then] immediately be hired back by the city as a contractor to continue serving as chief after he retires in September....

Fact check: Trump falsely claims US crime stats are only going up. Most went down last year, including massive drop in murder (www.cnn.com)

Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed on Tuesday that US crime statistics are “only” going up. In fact, most US crime numbers went down last year – and the decreases included one of the largest national declines in murder ever recorded....

sylver_dragon,

Yes, yes it has. And it’s directly because Russia engaging in exactly the type of expansionist wars NATO was set up to stop.

Buffalox,

Says the country that is at war with a democracy, one that sought EU and NATO membership. But was denied into NATO to appease Russia!!!

Shut up Russia, you are despicable. Hopefully you will recede into irrelevancy after losing to Ukraine. And hopefully get dissolved into multiple countries.

WhatAmLemmy,

Russia never left the cold war mindset. Putin thinks, acts, and leads like is sociopath KGB agent.

grue,

You are not considered a true Republican unless you demonstrate 100% simpering fealty to Russia and Putin’s dictatorial rule.

blahsay,

Iran trying to expand the conflict? Shocked I am! Shocked

oatscoop,

“Guys, these hexbear users and tankies people are talking about seem to be obnoxious, reactionary, tribalistic assholes that unironically support oppressive regimes. Clearly people hating them is The Red Scare 2.0

JaymesRS,

Me waiting for someone to point at any time withholding your vote actually brought about measurable change in a positive direction.

its been 84 years meme from Titanic

Leate_Wonceslace,
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Donald Trump is Genocide at home and abroad.

Joe Biden is “only” Genocide abroad, and probably less of it.

Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden is a Vote against genocide.

No, it doesn’t matter that he’s an active participant in the apparatus that’s creating the genocide, because if he’s in office there’s less genocide. Which is the important part, and pretending otherwise is sophistry. If you abstain from voting, you are increasing the likelihood of more genocide and if you discourage others from voting, you are an active participant in the overall social apparatus that is probabilistically increasing the amount of genocide.

The utility calculation is dead simple: more votes for Biden in key states makes more genocide less likely, and discouraging people from voting for Biden makes more genocide more likely. Therefore, discouraging people from voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy and voting for Biden in battleground states is an anti-genocide strategy. You should vote for Biden unless you live in a solid blue state, and even then it’s not a bad idea.

TLDR: if you encourage people to not vote for Biden, that’s supporting genocide. Accelerationism never works for us.

Cethin,

Yes, generally. However, they’ve been hijacked (legitimately or otherwise) by a group telling people not to vote for Biden. They push a message that it somehow does moral good to not participate. It doesn’t. Also, they’re pro-China and Russia before they’re leftist. These are authoritarian nations, and that seems to be priority 1 before anything else. They aren’t leftist if it goes against these nations, and they care about power far more than they care about people. They care about people as a means to power.

I personally believe this “don’t vote for Biden” message was started by either right-wing or state actors from another nation. It’s spread so much past that though. I think I was recently banned from Hexbear for commenting that sometimes we have to do things we don’t like because it provides the best outcome. Biden isn’t a great choice, but he’s the only reasonable choice. People should perform other actions, but they should vote for Biden to protect minorities and others temporarily. They’d rather people do nothing.

Cethin,

Let’s say there’s a trolley that’s on a track going to hit millions of people. You’re standing next to a lever and can make it change tracks where it’ll only kill thousands. Do you pull the lever?

This is your choice. Inaction is still a choice. You have the ability to participate in something shitty that can make things less shitty than they would be. You also have the choice to stand by and watch as millions die because you wanted to play moral high ground. You will have made a choice and their deaths will be on you. You should think about them when you go to sleep and how you failed them. They’ll be dead because you couldn’t hold your nose and pull the lever.

You’ll be participating in genocide no matter what, only it will be much worse than it could have been because of you.

SomethingBurger,

Tankies are far-right with Soviet aesthetics.

amio,

Sure. They're so "far left" (Marxist-Leninist, allegedly) they're all the way up an unrepentant, fascistic, oligarchic, autocratic, right wing dictator's asshole. Presumably the "logic" is that at least Russia used to be communist, and isn't "amerikkka" (staggeringly witty stuff, huh?), but it's pretty clear they're just trolls - or nearly undistinguishable from trolls. That is not effort I'd recommend wasting on their dumb asses.

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