jwildeboer, (edited )
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Here's a pattern to observe: Whenever a #EU directive (which MUST be implemented in national law) is perceived as a net positive, the national governments will claim it is THEIR success when they (after max 24 months) implement it in national law. They will almost never mention that it was the EU that did it. When a directive is perceived as net negative, the blame goes to Brussels. The EU can never win and show how much good they do. That's why I use #ThanksEU.

jwildeboer, (edited )
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Current example: USB-C as default charger connection for smartphones (and soon also laptops). It's an EU directive (the Common Charger Directive 2022/2380). But the German media are presenting it as a good decision by the German government. Who sent out press releases with that language. Le sigh. I say .

byteborg,
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@jwildeboer if it was a genuinely German initiative, all existing devices needed to be retrofit until 2030 🤣

jwildeboer,
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I am NOT saying that all EU Directives are good decisions. But I am definitely also NOT saying that they are all bad. I just wish that more of my fellow EU citizens understand how Trilogue, Directives, the Commission, the parliament and the council work. Fun thing: Because not many people understand this dynamic, lobbying becomes quite simple. I know it is, because I did it a few times. Minimal effort, maximal impact. Learn how to write amendments and get them in the EU parliament, people ;)

jwildeboer, (edited )
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As @etchedpixels correctly mentions in the comments, there is also a dark side to this. When one (or several) EU members want a law that is NOT popular, they can try to make it an EU directive that they unfortunately, really not our fault, HAVE to implement in national law. Evil EU! We didn't really want it, but now we HAVE to! The current commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, did exactly that when she was still in the German government. when you want to learn more about that.

etchedpixels,
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@jwildeboer The EU is very corrupt and broken. It's less corrupt and broken than many of the alternatives however but things like lobbying need fixing badly.

It's what happens when you retrofit a trade scheme as a government and then don't actually redo the system design because nobody can agree whether it's supposed to be a trading scheme plus or a united states of Europe and each members position changes every few years. Plus half the the time they hate each other and it's only there by need.

einalex,
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@etchedpixels I agree with you on the corruption and the need to fix it. I might agree on the causes if not for the ocean of national states steeped in corruption, who came about differently.

I think we require a more...realistic analysis before we can try and fix the problem. @jwildeboer

yours_truly,
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@einalex @etchedpixels @jwildeboer

Imho:

In den Parteien der Nationalstaaten wird es ähnlich aussehen, denn von dort kommen die EU Politiker, oder nicht?

Vorteilsnahme findet sich im Großen wie im Kleinen wieder. Das dürfte eine Binsenweisheit sein.

Das System, das Regelwerk muss überarbeitet werden, ein upgrade bekommen und dazu braucht es Bürger, Medienschaffende, die korrekte Leute Medial und mit Zivilcourage unterstützen.

yours_truly,
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@einalex @etchedpixels @jwildeboer

Was ich als problematisch empfinde ist: "Wenig bewusst zu leben."

So gibt es nach meiner Erfahrung den Zustand zu glauben,
mit nur wenigen Minuten Medienkonsum, an Hand einer kleinen Auswahl von Themen, die auch noch in Dauerschleife läuft, das eigene Empfinden sei die einzig mögliche Realität.

Das meinte ich nie böse, aber es brauchte Zeit und ist ein fortwährender Prozess, mir bewusst zu werden, dass das unmöglich stimmen kann.

publictorsten,
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@jwildeboer IIRC think this one was actually a German Initiative.

publictorsten,
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@jwildeboer or at least German politicians had similar ideas years before the directive

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    @jwildeboer
    Take a guess if I forgot :)

    publictorsten,
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    @jwildeboer
    But I haven't seen politicians taking credit today, who are you angry with?

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    @jwildeboer "macht den Weg frei" is fine for me.

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    @jwildeboer Sorry, aber nein. Wen soll das interessieren? Zudem. Heute gab es einen Bundesrats-Beschluss. Es gab heute keinerlei Neuigkeit aus Brüssel zur Sache.

    publictorsten,
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    @jwildeboer wer lediglich Kurznachrichten liest, bekommt nicht die ganze Nachricht.

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    @jwildeboer even worse, governments go through the EU to push for legislation they can't politically afford passing by their own parliament, or when it got rejected.

    Like the "loi Avia" in France, which got rejected, then got shoved through the EU to everyone else…

    etchedpixels,
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    @jwildeboer It was that way when I first got involved in it. Plus being an absolute cess pit of unregulated lobbying and dodgy dealers.

    Worse than the "EU did it" side was that there was systematic policy laundering going on where policies that would be unpopular were trundled by national governments through the EU so they could then blame the EU for them,

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