lynn,
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So many places Jews can’t go back to.

stevenbodzin,
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@lynn to me, this is a very weak argument for the effectiveness of Israel at keeping us safe. It sounds especially bad for someone in the US, where a growing part of the population espouses the idea that we should all go off to Israel and leave the US as a white ethnostate.

lynn,
@lynn@babka.social avatar

@stevenbodzin Huh? In no way is this suggesting everyone go to Israel.
It’s simply showing how many places Jews can’t go back to for those saying Israel shouldn’t exist.

stevenbodzin,
@stevenbodzin@thepit.social avatar

@lynn I know you were not saying that. My point is that having a Jewish state has, unfortunately, provided an escape valve for the worst anti-semites to have their way with entire countries, destroying local communities and history. There are many people in the US who want it to be a white, Christian nation. They also tend to be great supporters of Israel. It's more complicated than just wanting to deport us, as there is also Christian eschatology at work.

shekinahcancook,
@shekinahcancook@babka.social avatar

@stevenbodzin @lynn

That eschatology actually involves deporting us, or at least "strongly encouraging" us to move to Israel - whether we want to or not. They are not above trying to force their "end times," the same way they're trying to force natural disasters by ignoring climate collapse (and adding to it on purpose).

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