I don't see enough people asking why all these people who are outraged by Israel's bombing in #Gaza don't express similar anger toward #Russia over its indiscriminate bombing and shelling of Ukrainian civilians.
I don't agree with Netanyahu's policies or strategies. I don't support the indiscriminate killing of civilians, even in a zone like Gaza where #Hamas has built hundreds of tunnels under homes, schools, and hospitals and intentionally uses the civilian population as human shields to maximize casualties.
Nonetheless, if you're going to be outraged over civilian deaths, I think you should express similar outrage over the intentional deaths in Ukraine (and we might as well mention the intentional deaths of civilians occurring throughout Africa, where Al Qaeda/ISIS-linked militant groups continue to attack villages and small cities).
@michael_martinez a lot of those people are outraged about Russia. But there has been less need for us to get our countries to do something about it because they have been doing stuff already. Sanctions, funding, supplies of military equipment to Ukraine, strengthening of NATO, sending of aid, and much more have been happening.
But for Gaza? What exactly is the West doing? Our leaders are supporting Israel in its campaign instead.
@localzuk "But for Gaza? What exactly is the West doing? Our leaders are supporting Israel in its campaign instead."
And yet most of the outrage I see is completely silent on #Hamas, which does not represent the Palestinians (certainly not the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who live in Israel and who support the war against Hamas).
Hamas is the greater problem here. They could end the war in a day by surrendering and releasing the hostages. Instead, they have committed to further attacks against Israel in the future (and they continue to fire rockets toward Israel).
All the anti-Israel outrage is useless because it only does Hamas' bidding (and as others have pointed out, indirectly the bidding of Iran, China, and Russia).
So we need to continue pointing out the hypocrisy of the anti-Israel protests. Until everyone condemns Hamas, most people are supporting #terrorism and #genocide, and I find that unacceptable.
@michael_martinez Hamas are a major issue, absolutely, but I challenge you on them being a bigger problem. They haven't killed more than 20,000 civilians and injured 100,000 more.
But the issue is that Hamas are a terror group who won't surrender because they think they have their God on their side (they're basically ISIS with a slightly different banner).
Bombing the hell out of civilian areas is not going to get rid of them. It'll just make more of them.
@michael_martinez You are basically saying Israel gets a free hand in Gaza because of Hamas, and that's just not the case. Israel must follow international law. Which, they demonstrably and visibly aren't.
Everyone sane has called for Hamas to stop. But Hamas aren't going to listen, are they? But our governments? They will listen to the protests of their people.
@michael_martinez actions matter. Outcomes matter. The deaths of tens of thousands, and injuries of hundred thousand more are bigger issue.
The only way not to think so is if you are racist, in my view. If you think Palestinians are less important than Israelis.
And you keep circling to those who don't denounce Hamas. I'm going out on a limb here, but they seem to be very few and far between. Everyone here I've seen who is protesting Israel has also denounced Hamas.
The outcome of Hamas' October 7 action is the war in #Gaza.
Hamas and only Hamas is responsible for the death and destruction in Gaza. No one else, regardless of how despicable and misguided Netanyahu's policies and strategies may be.
"The deaths of tens of thousands, and injuries of hundred thousand more are bigger issue."
And until you and others like you stop ignoring the problem and point your fingers at Hamas and Iran, the problem will only get worse.
Even if you could stop Israel today, you would only set the stage for a greater war with even more deaths and destruction in the future.
Your blaming the victims only proves that Hamas has easily manipulated you into doing what they want - setting the stage for the next war, which will be worse than this one.
If you really care about Palestinians, you should be condemning Hamas with all your heart and passion. Only Hamas can stop this - or their destruction.
@michael_martinez read back what I said, as you appear to be wilfull in your ignoring what I said.
Hamas are akin to ISIS. No amount of people protesting will change their views. You can't change the view of religious extremists by protest.
Protest against Israel's actions killing civilians? That can actually work.
And your stating that all the deaths are Hamas' fault is historically ignorant and does exactly what you deny. It gives Israel a free hand to do whatever it wants.
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