KitMuse,
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I'm going to throw this out there and it may sound a bit controversial, but keep in mind I have nearly 20 years's experience as an entrepreneur. Is there ANYONE who works with business owners or business owners who don't just regurgitate the same allistic/neurotypical "marketing advice" that's sold all over the groups and "free offers"? Because I'm not seeing anyone doing anything different from the NTs. @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics

aloopapu,

@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics I have been self employed. Marketing always felt like Step Right Up by Tom Waits.

haui,

@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics controversial indeed but not wrong imo.

When I became an entrepreneur I didn’t know I was autistic. Now that I do, I do things differently.

But from a business perspective there is a big problem with ableist and discriminatory behavior out there.

Yesterday I was told I‘m nuts because I made millions by paying my people fairly and diversifying my customers instead of sucking up to big corpos.

BZBrainz,
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@KitMuse @actuallyautistic While I may see minor differences, I do not see significant differences in the strategies provided, which has been disappointing.

BZBrainz,
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@KitMuse @actuallyautistic If I need something specifically geared towards me as an author, I may look to my mutuals within the newly created Neurodivergent Publishing Conference (NPC) for recommendations/referrals. The best and most actionable advice I have received has come from my and friends/entrepreneurs, who discuss business with me ad nauseam.

KitMuse,
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@BZBrainz @actuallyautistic Do you have more information on the neurodivergent publishing conference? That sounds amazing and I hadn't heard of it before now.

BZBrainz,
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@KitMuse
Here is the direct link to the Neurodivergent Publishing Conference (NPC) 2024 website. It is organized by ND people for ND people.

https://ndpub.org

February will NPC’s second conference. There is also a Discord that I just noticed and may join.

@Adhdinos @actuallyautistic @audhd @writers

KitMuse,
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@BZBrainz @Adhdinos @actuallyautistic @audhd @writers Thanks. I joined the writer's group and also the discord.

wilbr,
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@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics I work for a company that mostly exists via word of mouth and delivering a decent solution to a selection of problems. They work with customers to create solutions and then sell them, vs making shiny products and convincing people to buy them. I think the most honest way to market yourself is like an artisan putting their sign up on the boardwalk, not buying into the "influencer" hype etc just doing decent work and letting people see it.

dricibone,
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@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics Whoa. Hey! That's exactly what I have been thinking about. In your experience, where are the biggest problems/gaps for and business owners in what's out there?

KitMuse,
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@dricibone @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics That actually sounds like an "engagement" question all the marketing and business "coaches" tell you to ask. So I feel like you haven't been listening.

dricibone,
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@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics Ok, sorry. I was just curious what didn't work for you. I find a lot of it doesn't make sense to me because of all the implicit assumptions baked into "just do this thing with this tool on this network/platform". That makes it harder to figure out how to apply it to the tools that work for me and the people I want to talk to

sal,
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@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics advertising is what you are looking for, or something else?

KitMuse,
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@sal @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics Yeah, like what to post on social media, when, how to bring in clients, etc. Marketing stuff.

I can create websites, blog, podcast, etc. from dawn to dusk. It's telling people about my work that I'm sucking at. 😀

sahat,

@KitMuse @sal @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics
I sort of vibe with that. And just this morning I had the revelation that part of is, because of my autistic sense of truth. Marketing is just not in alignment with it. The wole thing of makign myself look a certain way and advertising myself is just colliding with me head on. It makes me cringe. I have always wondered why I can#t get myself to do it. To advertise anything. I'm an anticapitalist by nature. Born that way. I deeply resent this whole areny. I want to live in a world were non eof this would be necessary.
I know, dream on... I will have to process this and I will still ahve to find a way, that is more aligned with my values..
I just find the way people bend themselves in order to be marketable so revolting. I am also speaking about the area of self help, emotional healing and stuff, cus that's where I would be placing myself ( If I did). And it's especially revolting when it get's this personal.

KitMuse,
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@sahat @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics YES! This is a large percentage of it. I mean, people say unmask and be yourself, but when yourself is not who most people want to see/know, then it just feels wrong.

sahat,

@KitMuse @actuallyautistic @actuallyautistics uunmasking while trying to tell the NT majority, that you have something valuable to offer, but you're not going to fulfill their expectations on how it is going to look...
I'm not sure it's unpossible, but marketing has a lot to do with controlling how you are being perceived. I can't picture myself controlling the perception of my authentic self. I'd have to figure out some really unique approach.

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