I finally gave up on rcs and I’m on beeper now. I had one or two friends that it just never works with and there is no way to disable it per conversation so I was unable to talk to just those people. Hopefully when beeper adds rcs soon it’ll be better.
I can’t overstate how big of a fan I am! There are certainly a few rough edges (particularly with attachments and gifs for text convos) but other than that it’s been great. I use the iMessage integration but only with one friend cause I’ve been nervous to rely on it. The devs are really good at communicating when there is an outage which gives me a lot of confidence.
Fix the goddamned failover to SMS you morons! My kids don’t have data plans and I usually keep data turned off on my phone (because Canada), I keep having to turn off RCS altogether because if I try to send them a message over RCS it doesn’t failover to SMS (yes, I have the option turned on), it just sits there dumfounded saying “can’t deliver”.
Ah fair enough. Yeah moving here from a country where unlimited data was around $3 a month was a shock. That said I get 40 GB for $50 a month with Koodo so I’ve never even come close to reaching my limit.
I’m really cheap when it comes to anything monthly. I only got a data plan really recently and it’s bare minimum - before that I was paying $8/mo for just talk and text. I’m a luddite, I like owning stuff. I’d rather have an expensive phone and a cheap plan than the reverse, and at $40/mo a good deal but that’s still pricier than a good phone after 2 years.
Hmm on my Pixel it prompts me every now and then with a popup, even though I don’t want to enable it.
I never use text messages, I already use Telegram and WhatsApp, and I don’t like that, in the rare case I need to send an SMS, I’m not sure if it uses my internet connection or not.
weird. I had to manually enable it for several members of my family because “they couldn’t join group chats” and “received poor quality photos”. none of them had a pixel though, so perhaps it’s a pixel thing to force you
well I’m in ukraine, don’t know anything about us.
yeah, all plans have unlimited calls (within the same carrier) but not sms (which usually cost around 2 cents/message) here
sms is basically dead anyway… (it’s basically just a confirmation code delivery system)
That’s so strange! Here in the US lots of people still use sms, and it’s free/included unlimited in all the plans. I have heard previously other countries like in Asia and stuff, don’t really use sms either though, so that’s interesting to me…
SMS has been free in the UK for a long time but nobody uses it, I think WhatsApp killed it around 2010ish. I think the main drivers for people switching to WhatsApp from SMS were:
Works with WiFi when you have no network signal. A lot of times, especially back then, phone signal would be almost non existent inside larger buildings, especially older buildings where the walls are like 1metre thick.
Way way faster and more responsive, you can see when it’s sent, received and read
Can send pictures and messages! You could do it via MMS but that was (and is today) expensive (it’s like £0.50 per message according to my contract). Plus MMS was slow, sometimes messages wouldn’t send, or they’d get sent to an email inbox provided by the phone network, and/or they’d arrive days later.
Group chats
It’s also interesting that the top comment here mentions wanting SMS fallback. For me it would bug the hell out of me if it did fallback, I’d rather the message just not send.
I moved to Google Messages when Signal dropped SMS support and it’s been fine. Most people I know who aren’t on Signal or WhatsApp are on iPhones, but there are a decent number who apparently have RCS so – perversely – Signal dropping SMS support had actually resulted in a net increase in my secure messaging.
That is why signal dropped support for it.theybssid it was to increase security because users could accidentally be using signal sending regular SMS. The way you got lore secure is not how they advertised the removal, but makes sense that happens in some cases. Same thing happened to me.
The one bug that I’ve had for a long while now is the “auto resend as SMS” feature that’s supposed to kick in if the RCS chat fails, takes forever to work. It’s much faster to just manually hit the send as SMS option if there are issues going on.
It uses the Signal protocol for its encryption so they went with a well known and proven option, but metadata isn’t encrypted like it is with the actual Signal app apparently so it’s not quite as secure.
A good chunk of my family uses Android and all have RCS enabled so I get to use it a good amount and it’s been pretty solid for me.
Edit: the desktop app is actually just a PWA website so that might be able to get around your work PC’s restrictions on installing apps.
Google’s messaging app actually has a desktop browser based client that you can use to send messages from your computer. So that might actually be a good solution for you. I use it regularly and have no complaints about either the phone app or the web app.
Yeah. I don’t really think it’s better either. I just think it’ll fall flat on its face like Google’s many many previous attempts at messaging unless they actually tell people it exists.
Google’s RCS has 800M active users and it’s projected to hit 1B by the end of the year matching iMessage’s usage. Whether people actually know that it’s RCS or not, it’s been a pretty successful service for Google so far.
RCS done properly would be nice. I’d very much like to not be sending my messages through meta. Google’s implementation, however, just trades one American giant for another.
With an app it is just me, the app and whatever internet connection I have.
With SMS&co instead I have to deal with a system outside that, managed by the phone company and whatever.
Also apps are constantly updated, RCS standard will just become SMS2.
Even iPhone users use an app in USA, it is only USA android users that for some random reasons are still stuck to SMS.
Here I just open telegram or whatsapp and message with anyone, no matter the phone. Or discord, or Matrix...
True. But the for the last part, but the argument for RCS is the same. But more so. You’d know you could just message them using it and you wouldn’t need to know if they were using WhatsApp discord. No matter what their phone would have RCS, or would fall back to SMS.
I’m European and I pretty much only use SMS with family members and such. It always works! But pretty much everyone in my extended family uses an iPhone which is annoying when I want to send or receive big media files. So it would be very nice if iOS started to support RCS messaging
I primarily use Discord with friends. I don’t think I have ever met one that uses signal or Telegram regularly. The only ones I know that use whatsapp are my parents. Old people mostly use Facebook messenger or maybe whatsapp I believe.
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