AimeeMaroux,
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Have a beautiful Day of Aphrodite aka Venus' Day aka Frigg's Day aka Friday 🌹

Aphrodite Anadyomene (Aphrodite rising from the sea) standing in her sea shell.

🏛️ Terracotta figurine, made in Amisos (Pontus), late 1st century BCE - early 1st century CE, found in Kertch (ancient Panticapaeum). Today in the Musée du Louvre, Paris

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Irisfreundin,
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  • Irisfreundin,
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    @AimeeMaroux @mythology @histodons @antiquidons
    The misunderstanding may have been caused by a common habit in Antiquity: Names of
    foreign Gods and Goddesses were customarily translated into names of own deities. Herodotos
    f. i. constantly used names of Greek deities for Egypt ones (interpretatio graeca).
    In the same way Latin writers used names of Roman Gods and Goddesses when they translated
    Greek myths into Latin (interpretatio romana).

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    Irisfreundin,
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    @AimeeMaroux @mythology @histodons @antiquidons
    Much later the same procedure
    was followed when names of Germanic gods were used to transfer the Latin names for some
    days of the week - see picture

    But the use of indigenous names for foreign deities had no influence on the everyday religion;
    it is a widely discussed question, if these names even concern the same Gods and Goddesses.

    AimeeMaroux,
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    @Irisfreundin @mythology @histodons @antiquidons I am not saying that the goddesses are the same at all? I am saying the name of the day is the same, they's all Friday.
    In ancient Greek, Friday is named after the "Star of Aphrodite", i.e. Venus. The Romans, and today Italians and other Romance languages still call Friday the Day of [the planet] Venus". In the Germanic languages, the days of the week were named after associated Germanic gods. If Friday was named after Frigg or Freya is uncertain.

    mundi,

    @antiquidons @AimeeMaroux @Irisfreundin @mythology @histodons

    In Mongolian Friday is баасан Basan
    From Tibetan པ་སངས Pasang - Friday/planet Venus
    And I think it all started with the Sumerians.

    AimeeMaroux,
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    @mundi @antiquidons @Irisfreundin @mythology @histodons Yes, the Greeks definitely didn't start the practice. I think Venus is the "Star of Ishtar" in ancient Mesopotamia?

    mundi,

    @mythology @antiquidons @histodons @Irisfreundin @AimeeMaroux
    It's amazing how it has spread to rest of the world.
    In Chinese they don't use planets for week days, probably did in the past.
    Sunday is still "day of sun", the rest of the days are numerical: "first day" - Monday to "sixth day". But the word for "week" is Xingqi 星期 - "Stars Period"

    eleder,
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    @mundi @mythology @antiquidons @histodons @Irisfreundin @AimeeMaroux China and Portugal, together in the future!!!

    mundi,

    @Irisfreundin @mythology @AimeeMaroux @eleder @antiquidons @histodons
    Why future? (And why Portugal? Do they also count the days?)

    eleder,
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    @mundi @Irisfreundin @mythology @AimeeMaroux @antiquidons @histodons Yep, they also count days, apart from Sunday, as in "segunda-feira" ("second fair", Monday), "terça-feira" ("third fair", Tuesday)...

    mjvalente,

    @eleder @mundi @Irisfreundin @mythology @AimeeMaroux @antiquidons @histodons

    In Portuguese, sábado (Saturday) is also an exception. Our system is one of those historical curiosities. 🤓 🇵🇹 An Early Medieval change of system dating back to the times of the Suebi Kingdom (which, in the 5th and 6th centuries, occupied all of Galicia and the north of Lusitania), due to the action of St. Martin of Dume.

    Furthermore:

    «The "feira" (fair), from Monday to Friday, means, in origin, a feast day and comes from the Latin “feria-”. Domingo, from the Latin «dominicu-», means «(day) of the Lord», therefore it is instead of a «first» fair! As for Saturday (which would be the “seventh”!) it comes from the Latin “sabbatu-”, coming, in turn, from the Hebrew “shabbath”, 'weekly rest'.»

    in Ciberdúvidas da Língua Portuguesa, https://ciberduvidas.iscte-iul.pt/consultorio/perguntas/origem-dos-nomes-dos-dias-da-semana/15679

    Irisfreundin,
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    @mundi @mythology @AimeeMaroux @eleder @antiquidons @histodons

    In Portuguese, the days of the week are numbered and not named after something.

    See the table down on the site:
    https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dias_da_semana

    drpeterjmiller,

    @Irisfreundin @mundi @mythology @AimeeMaroux @eleder @antiquidons @histodons in modern Greek too, at least partially, for Δευτέρα, Τρίτη, Τετάρτη, Πέμπτη (Monday-Thursday).

    mundi,

    @drpeterjmiller @histodons @AimeeMaroux @Irisfreundin @eleder @mythology @antiquidons

    My favorite is the Hungarian week:
    Monday - "head of the seven"
    Sunday - "day of market"

    eleder,
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    @mundi @drpeterjmiller @histodons @AimeeMaroux @Irisfreundin @mythology @antiquidons In the Souletine dialect of Basque, Saturday is "Day of Girls" 😃

    Irisfreundin,
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    @eleder @mundi @drpeterjmiller @histodons @AimeeMaroux @mythology @antiquidons

    In the Renaissance a Frisian Goddess Firdi ( Fera, Ferda Freda, Fridi) is mentioned. Her day is the 6th day of the week. It is not clear, of Friday or Saturday is meant. The source is called "Divisiekroniek" because it it structured in 32 divisies (sections).

    From "Illustrated Lexicon of Germanic Deities" by Gunivortus Goos

    vinesnfluff,

    @Irisfreundin @mundi @mythology @AimeeMaroux @eleder @antiquidons @histodons Portuguese speaker representing here

    I am 28 (29 in a few days), I have been fluent in English since age 13. I also briefly learned Spanish.

    I NEVER wrapped my head around the funky names y'all have for days of the week. I still have to look it up every single time 💀

    Why isn't two's-day the second day, why isn't third's-day the third day, what the fuck is a when's day? Spanish can also go fuck itself, I just don't have a funni joak for it.

    Just count your days you weirdosssssss ooommmmggg overdramatic armwaves around

    Irisfreundin,
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    @vinesnfluff @mundi @mythology @AimeeMaroux @eleder @antiquidons @histodons

    Several years ago I used to produced calenders in German and English. The problem was: In Germany Monday is the first day of the week. In the English speaking world that is Sunday.
    In the Netherlands both countings are used.

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    Irisfreundin,
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    mundi,

    @Irisfreundin @antiquidons @jlundell @AimeeMaroux @mythology @vinesnfluff @eleder @histodons

    Nice thread, everyone.
    I think it's the best thread I've had on Mastodon so far.
    In fact, it's the only thread I've had on Mastodon so far.

    Irisfreundin,
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    beng,

    @mundi @mythology @Irisfreundin @AimeeMaroux In Biblical and modern Hebrew the days of the week are also numerical.

    mundi,

    @beng @Irisfreundin @mythology @AimeeMaroux

    Only Saturday is still named after Shabtay (Saturn)

    And that's funny when they start from Sunday and in China on Monday and it causes confusion.

    Irisfreundin,
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    @mundi @antiquidons @AimeeMaroux @mythology @histodons
    For the Sumerians Venus was the ambassador of Ishdar.

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