AuthorInkwell,
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The moment I hear someone try to call ANY job "unskilled labor", I have to fight the urge to shove the tools into their hands and say, "Okay, YOU do it, then, since it's so simple."

theceoofanarchism,
@theceoofanarchism@kolektiva.social avatar

@AuthorInkwell @jxPTkCXcakcoGNmdhtur Its beneath me and demeaning to demand I do a job the poors are supposed to. Its just nature there are some jobs for sophisticated intellectuals like and me and some that are not.

passenger,
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@AuthorInkwell @jxPTkCXcakcoGNmdhtur
There's a saying in engineering that an engineer is someone who can do for $1 what any idiot can do for $2.

Similarly, I can make a bed and change linen. I can't do it in ninety seconds. I can pick an apple, but I can't pick an orchard at speed.

The skill isn't in being able to do the thing. It's being able to do it well, repeatedly, at speed.

Most people dismiss so-called "unskilled" work because they don't understand how fast and reliable people can get at it.

Davos,

@AuthorInkwell @jxPTkCXcakcoGNmdhtur There is no such thing as "unskilled labor."

Say it with me everyone and repeat it at least 3 times so it'll sink in...

datatitian,

@AuthorInkwell @jxPTkCXcakcoGNmdhtur

Yeah they'd burn their hand off in the deep fryer before they figured out how to make fries.

Mike Rowe is paid by the Koch oil barons to spread their propaganda message that people who perform society's vital functions belong in a underclass and they don't deserve a chance to enrich themselves at college when they're young

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-64-mike-rowes-koch-backed-working-man-affectation

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

@AuthorInkwell @jxPTkCXcakcoGNmdhtur Also, get out of here with that “Quiet Quitting” BS. Corporate stooges made that garbage up to explain people not going above and beyond. When in reality, people are wisening up and not doing more than what they’re paid to do. That, and the millions suffering who are barely holding on, so can’t do more than what they’re already paid to do.

Chimaeratorian,

This is a response to Mike Rowe and other like-minded individuals (not OP):

Unskilled labor does not exist.

HubertManne,
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There was a post I saw of some twitter thing where I guy was complaining burger flippers wanted wages like him deliver packages and they don't deserve that kind of skilled wage??? Burger flippers are on a ladder that leads to chef. Not sure where package delivery leads. Really if a person goes for skilled or unskilled the real thing to me is no one should really make more than 10 times someone else. Especially when the highest paid are not necessarily very skilled anyway.

tinwhiskers, (edited )
tinwhiskers avatar

At risk of running against the obvious tide here, if you take the word "skilled" literally then of course everyone becomes skilled in whatever job they do. However, here "skilled" is used not literally, but in the sense of the industry term that means the job generally requires formal training and/or qualification before employment.

Edit: Not to say I don't think it's not a demeaning term (possibly intentionally so). It's a sucky word but let's not allow ourselves to become overly indignant by misconstrueing the sense of the term used.

dannoffs,
@dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Friendly reminder that Mike Row is literally a paid propagandist for the Koch family.

snooggums,
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I really enjoyed dirty jobs because it appeared to be promoting recognition for the working class. Should have caught on when obvious safety considerations were downplayed for laughs, bit my optimism got the better of me.

Just think if they used the same devious approach to improve things instead of tearing them down. Maybe the approach wouldn't work the other way around.

yardy_sardley,

I know we’ve been over this before, but “unskilled” jobs are necessary, Mike. The people who do them deserve to live too, my guy. The poverty wages aren’t the only thing motivating people to avoid those jobs, and that should be firsthand knowledge for you, pal.

And it’s not like it takes a lot of skill to look down your nose at people for 10 seasons of television. With all due respect, kindly fuck off.

Royalish,

Mike Rowe is a flaming pile of dog doodoo. Didn’t he and Discovery do a special on how fossil fuels aren’t bad for the environment?

Hogger85b,

People who work full time jobs and still need to up benefits like food stamps etc means it is a benefit to the employer as it subsides them making more profits by employing people below sustaining their life. Minimum wage ensures the company pays for that labour.

Boozilla,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

I get Kevin Spacey vibes off this douche.

elevenfingerfrk,

Why does anyone care what this asshat has to say about anything?

masquenox,

Is there a particular reason this scumbag’s “opinion” is worth posting here?

RocksForBrains,

Literally a paid actor. He’s so rich he has no say here.

mrichey,

Well paid actor, union member, college educated, opera singer Mike Rowe is a Koch shill!!

myrmidex,

Is he the guy from MikeRoweSoft?

Mutelogic,

artificially high wage

The wages are currently artificially low. Everyone who is sane wants them brought up to the correct level.

How did he go from ‘Dirty Jobs’ to this…

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

He's always been a conservative PoS.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Dirty Jobs was actually celebrating how people were still working those jobs for crap pay and ignoring safety regulations for the benefit of companies while pretending to celebrate the workers. If you go back with the mindset of "how would a company try to make its terrible treatment of workers look good" it is a lot more apparent.

I loved dirty jobs at the time before finding out.

JoumanaKayrouz,

“I worry that the path to a skilled trade can be compromised when you offer an artificially high wage for, I hate the expression, but an unskilled job. So to me, the brightest line needs to be drawn between skilled and unskilled work. We need to encourage more people to learn a skill that’s actually in demand,” he said.

$15 is an “artificially high wage”. How disconnected are you, you dunce? That’s $30k a year, while the cheapest apartment anywhere is over $1000 a month. That leaves you $1,500 a month for food, car, utilities, basic needs. And that ain’t shit.

Mike Rowe has a micro penis.

HubertManne,
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30k is tax free too right?

JoumanaKayrouz,

It depends, but such a low income and what is spent on rent, taxes are likely to be pretty low. That definitely doesn’t help though

Horsey,

It really is sad to see these arguments not include after tax amounts. 30k/year after taxes is closer to 45K/year. That’s 21.63/hour. I have a 4 year degree in biology/chemistry and I’m making 20/hour. You’ve displayed your own argument massively for the sake of all the poor people making under that.

JoumanaKayrouz,

You may have to pay upfront, yes, and that would hurt. However, more than likely, at this income you would get a lot of it back.

dragoonies,

It doesn’t really matter how “skilled” or “unskilled” a job is, what matters is how essential the job is and the availability of people willing to do the job. As we’re seeing in many industries, people are striking to get higher wages, and companies are finding out just how much they need these “unskilled” laborers. A federal minimum wage is just accepting the reality that no matter how unskilled a job is, many are rather essential to the function of industry and society, and it’s skipping the part where the workers have to strike to prove it to the corporations.

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