timrichards,
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A passing thought while I'm in Western Australia...

WA was never part of New South Wales, so 26 January 1788 - Sydney's foundation day - can have no meaning for it per se.

The only significance 26 January can have for this part of Australia is a celebration of the arrival of white settlers on the continent. So nothing to do with the modern nation state of Australia, and everything to do with white supremacy.

It really won't do as the date for a unifying national day.

bhalla,
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@timrichards It does however provide a useful bookend to the summer holiday season, so I think that, regardless of where the national day ends up, the last Friday in January should be a national ‘Summer Public Holiday’ every year.

timrichards,
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@bhalla I don’t see the need for a random summer public holiday myself, but I'm a freelancer - I generally find public holidays a pain in the arse.

bhalla,
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@timrichards I fear that without that end-of-January anchor point people in my profession would, over the years, tend to drift back to work earlier and earlier and, before you know it, the long January sojourn will be gone!

timrichards,
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@bhalla Ha that would suit me fine; I spend all January tapping my foot, waiting for editors to get back to work so I can pitch them stories. :)

earthmothering9,
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@timrichards This is certainly how I feel as a West Aussie

jonathantrott,
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@timrichards best option is federation day, 1st jan, then we can celebrate new years day holiday on the 2nd.

jetsoft,

@jonathantrott @timrichards I agree but would take the holiday on the 31st. That way you get a day off to organise your new years eve parties.

We could keep NSW invasion day as well. Maybe make it sorry day instead.

WA does also have a foundation day holiday. Now called wa day. Symbolised by a woman chopping down a tree. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foundation_of_Perth_1829

timrichards,
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@jetsoft @jonathantrott Victoria needs a Separation Day holiday for when we threw off the yoke of NSW in 1851 :)

iskandarv,
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@timrichards We were discussing this yesterday. It is as meaningless as the King’s official birthday. Just an arbitrary date as far as WA is concerned. However should Australia declare itself a republic then a unifying date of independence would conveniently be created.

timrichards,
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@iskandarv Even now we could pick a day associated with Federation. Federal parliament first met on 9 May, that could do.

crazypantz6,
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@timrichards @iskandarv There are some Western Australians who are not that fond of Federation either.

Ex_spurt,
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@crazypantz6 @timrichards @iskandarv If WA have to celebrate 26 Jan then Eastern Australia should have to celebrate 30 Mar, the day French Captain Jean Mengaud de la Hage claimed the Western half of the continent for King Louis XV 😉

timrichards,
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@Ex_spurt @crazypantz6 @iskandarv I believe Baudin claimed Victoria for Napoleon too!

DropBear,
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timrichards,
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@DropBear Yes! I've heard that suggested before. Good day, no local political overtones, just a celebration of the national flora.

MorpheusB,
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@timrichards Does this apply also to South Australia?

timrichards,
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@MorpheusB SA was part of NSW once. But in a general sense, I can't see how Sydney's foundation day has a national resonance unless it's as a celebration of colonialism. Just particularly sticks out re WA.

MorpheusB,
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@timrichards Bugger, id forgotten that.

MorpheusB,
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@timrichards well, my ancestors were not from uk, to me the day is meaningless, nothing to do with me, only all my many indigenous friends.

timrichards,
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@MorpheusB It many ways it's the worst possible date for a national day out of all 365 (366?) on offer.

adamhsparks,
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@timrichards as a now resident of WA, I’d never thought about this. Good point.

timrichards,
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@adamhsparks Yeah it would be different if the date had something to do with Federation; but Sydney's birthday is so irrelevant.

Ex_spurt,
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@timrichards @adamhsparks as a long time resident who was born on 26 Jan I have always felt this way. Also growing up here most people couldn't even tell you what the holiday was for (it was always on the closest Monday) until the 90s when Governments started ramping up the jingoism

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