BlueMonday1984,

Spoilers: The cards are NFTs

Xerxos,

Outrage bait to promote their shitty NFT game.

sc_griffith,
@sc_griffith@awful.systems avatar

yeah this person does not exist and pcgamer is getting suckered into providing publicity for a crypto scam, based on absolutely nothing

Amoeba_Girl,
@Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems avatar

Wow those are not even pretending the design’s not ripped off from Hearthstone.

Amoeba_Girl,
@Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems avatar

Looking up the game all you can find is their own promotion and mentions on crypto websites. Their own trainwreck of a website seems rather coy about the NFT/blockchain/scam part.

I’ll assume they said this as a bit so they get mentioned in mainstream gaming publications.

sailor_sega_saturn,
@sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems avatar
Mango,

The cards are certainly highly detailed and I’m pretty sure that’s what they think at quality is. They unfortunately lack any kind of unifying artistic direction. The sad truth is that there’s plenty of kids out there dumping their allowance on shitty generic gachapon stuff and other similar games. This one will do just fine in that crowd while people with taste see the market for what’s good evaporate.

It happened with audio. Audiophiles hate on people who overpay for garbage and those people who but the garbage and justify the shitty market will defend their garbage like it’s their identity.

Look at Pokemon. What mattered about Pokemon has been replaced with focus group nonsense. People still buy it up.

Here’s the thing about art. If it’s got nothing to say, it’s just eye candy at best.

froztbyte,

I’ve said this to someone else before here, and I’ll repeat it for you now: you need to look at better art

o7___o7,
@o7___o7@awful.systems avatar

Here’s the thing about art. If it’s got nothing to say, it’s just eye candy at best.

Oscar Wilde has entered the chat

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t believe for a second there is an artist in the game industry with zero social media. You need it for networking.

GenderNeutralBro,

I haven’t looked closely at these specific cards so I have nothing to say on their subjective artistic merit, but I agree with the principles here:

  1. Art has value and artists deserve to be paid.
  2. AI is a tool artists can use to make art. (It does not make art on its own.)
  3. Creating high quality AI art is not a simple or unskilled task. Not just anybody can use AI and magically get good results.

For those not familiar with the processes used with AI image generators, take a look at ComfyUI. The processing graphs (or “hypernetworks”) of ComfyUI can be arbitrarily complex, and if you have specific design goals, it takes a lot of know-how to use effectively. You can look at examples at comfyworkflows.com, and you can see the hypernetworks used for each example image. Some of these have dozens of connected networks, each with specific configurations. It’s really neat!

Again, I have no opinion on (or interest in criticizing) these particular examples of AI-generated/AI-assisted art. I’m just talking about the technique. You can make shitty art in any medium, and seriously, most art in any given medium is shitty, so don’t judge the medium by a few examples. Try to look at the potential hidden behind those examples. Picture an image in your head, and think about what it would actually take to make that (not just something vaguely resembling it) using AI. I guarantee you, it’s not as simple as “type in a prompt”! This is especially true in the context of larger artistic works that require coherency between images (like, say, a consistent character design). It’s possible to do that today, but it requires a lot of skill and practice. It will likely get a lot easier in the future, and more importantly, artists will hone their skills over time, the way they do with every medium.

And if you want to get really specific, you probably need to train or finetune some networks for yourself. That’s a whole other layer of complexity and power.

Soyweiser,

“His art is 100% AI generated, yet it has no extra fingers, no generic designs”

“no generic designs”

lol

stevedidwhat_infosec,

The delusions and paranoia around AI man it never ends. This market would so easily be undercut it would make your head spin lmao.

Imo things should only ever get cheaper and easier for us to do, but then you have these capitalist obsessives that just want to hoard money and power and refuse to make a better living for their neighbors (deserving or not, in the name of progressing as a species)

froztbyte,

fucking hell, looking at those images is a who’s who of identifying stolen imagery, over and above the milquetoast extrageneric hallmark blandness

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe avatar

"milquetoast extra generic blandness" isn't that just corporate art as a whole?

froztbyte,

look I don’t want to be fucking carrying water for fucking corporations this early in the morning, but that’s a disingenious remark

fucked (and possibly/likely corrupt) as their motivations for doing this shit may be, there are nonetheless examples of interesting) and/or notable art originated/bought/funded by corporates

the issue of these ML genimage platforms and their signature mellow output is substantially somewhat different, and the very point of my post was the fucking theft and derivative nature of the output product

walter_wiggles,

The artist is probably outsourcing the actual work to a hundred poor souls for peanuts.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Hundreds of ai chat bots who went to AI image bots who are actually thousands of poor souls.

Anticorp,

Why? An AI can spit out amazing images in about 30 seconds. That’s why I’m confused with them saying they paid a person $90k for AI art. Put a description in the chat box with a $20 per month subscription and get exactly what is on these cards.

mawhrin,
@mawhrin@awful.systems avatar

i’m quite sure you can point us to at least one such image. (one’s enough, thank you.)

Anticorp, (edited )

Every image on every post in this community was created through simple word prompts using AI generators:

lemmy.ca/c/thelyricsgame

Edit: here, I created these two images for you in about 30 seconds using the following prompt:

Create a playing card that looks similar to a magic the gathering card. The card should be titled “Fortress”. Use an epic looking tortoise to for the image of the card, using the artistic style from the Hearthstone game. Give it some flavor text indicating that it boost’s your defensive attributes

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9cec5323-68a8-423c-8575-e728e0b0b6a2.webp

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/45d35505-750c-4366-b64f-0b3dbc4dbf0d.webp

Some basic editing could be used to add the title, and update the flavor text. Or I could spend another 2 minutes getting the AI to do that itself.

froztbyte,

So are you going to share any of those amazing images, or…?

Anticorp,

You’re surrounded by technology that was barely a dream ten years ago, and you’re so jaded with cynicism that you can’t even see the possibilities. K. Good luck with that.

froztbyte,

On the off chance you see this later (perhaps in rageclicking to see why you can’t post here anymore), it’s actually quite the inverse that applies: I’m remarkably optimistic (surprisingly so, given all the shit in the world). This post recently crossed my feed and it applies rather well.

But to really spell it out for you: you’re carrying water for extremely harmful systems, built out at scale with no true regard for their present or future impact on people, the environment, or the world otherwise. And you wandered in here. Congratulations on being given a lesson. I hope you learn from it.

mawhrin,
@mawhrin@awful.systems avatar

can you tell me in your own words what makes these images “amazing”? three paragraphs, no llm output, and i assume you’re familiar with basic drawing principles?

peanuts4life,
@peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Plot twist, the “artist” is the ceo’s significant other and a $20 gpt subscription.

Bunnylux,
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