I went to Reddit today...

And saw a bunch of posts about the third party apps closing down, and lots of negativity about that whole fiasco.

... And I realized I hadn't been there for a week... And frankly didn't miss it. I am really loving the beehaw (and Lemmy as a whole) community. Thanks for being open, welcoming, responsive, engaging, and just generally nice people. I'm happy to be here. :)

Phantom_Engineer,
@Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml avatar

Lemmy is great. It doesn't need to be the end all to be all, and it doesn't need to be a reddit killer. It just needs to be around for whoever wants to congregate and discuss.

Hermitix,

I just registered here after reading the RIF announcement. I won't be using the official app, so I guess that's the end of an era for me!

simple,
simple avatar

Same boat here. Been using RiF for almost a decade now and have no intention of using the terrible privacy hell Reddit app. There's potential here to be a viable alternative.

dcpDarkMatter,
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Sync for me. I still browse on my desktop, so once they get rid of old.reddit, that's the end of the line for me. Niche/local subs are going to be going to be hard to do until a critical mass shows up here.

Snugglebug,

If there's content on Reddit you absolutely must view, I definitely endorse RSS readers. No need for an account and you get rid of the infinite scrolling and data mining of the Front-page view

kotatsuyaki, (edited )

Wait, I didn't know that it's possible to use RSS readers to view Reddit. Just tried it out, and it's even better than using old Reddit (which I've been doing for ages).

Edit: Here's how to use RSS readers to view Reddit.

If there’s content on Reddit

And there are a lot of content there indeed. I find myself constantly appending reddit or site:reddit.com to my search engine terms in a desperate attempt to get information from real-ish people and not from SEO shit.

blindsight,

That's what I'm going to miss the most. It was so hard to find quality content outside of Reddit already, and with "AI" it's just going to get worse.

CannaVet,

I was just perusing the big AMA with the CEO or whatever the spez guy is. They are not holding up well lmao.

Stabbitha,

Popping my Lemmy cherry!

That ama is what convinced me that reddit is dead, and in like 3 minutes took me from being sad about it to enthusiastically watching it die.

Dalek,

I'm currently feeling both lol. I'm sad Reddit is making the decisions it's making. Having communities that big help find niche info. However I'm glad everyone is giving them hell for how they're treating devs and users.

historical_garlic383,

Same here. I was going to stick around till the end of the month, but that AMA convinced to delete my account today and move on to better things. I made sure to leave a tip in the jar for Christian on my way out.

alex,

I paid for RIF is Fun Platinum Golden, just as a thank you to TalkLittle for his awesome work. I feel bad I never did it before, but I really appreciate them

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Hear hear! I've been on Reddit over 15 years but fuck it, it's not worth the neverending fountain of bullshit.

catharticrespite,

I'd bet my left nut reddit will survive for quite a while yet, probably do even better over time

The kind of people who end up here just aren't the target demographic for them anymore

dessalines,

FB and twitter are losing users, but very slowly. Reddit will go out the same way... It'll be a whiny, decades-long, fading away into obscurity, while still retaining lots of assets.

JeffVanGundy,

I'm just hoping that most of my favorite niche subs move to something more decentralized; Reddit has a bunch of specialized communities that I'd hate to lose.

SickIcarus,

Maybe… but I’d guess in the same sense that Digg is still around. You’re right about the type of people migrating here, though - Reddit no longer cares about intelligent discussion, it’s all memes and snark and political outrage. They don’t want an informed populace, they want a populace that can be steered toward whatever they want.

This is not the first mass migration I’ve seen from Reddit, but this is the first one that feels like it might actually stick, for a couple of reasons: First, Lemmy finally feels like a viable alternative. Previous alternatives like Voat were quite abrasive - like I’m all about free speech, but I don’t want to see a bunch of hateful content just for the sake of being shocking. Second, this time they’re fucking with the mods. And while a lot can be said about the quality of the moderation over there, people abhorr being asked to do more with less, especially when they’re working for free. Lose the mods and the site is DONE. It will be overrun with spam so quick it’ll make your head spin, and then the last exodus will occur, quietly. And Reddit cannot afford to replace the unpaid mods with paid mods, they simply don’t have the resources.

It will be interesting to see how things go with Lemmy, but I have hopes - with it being decentralized, if a community becomes toxic or overly-censored it seems easy enough to spin up a rival on a different instance and filter the bad actor. At least that seems to be the pitch, let’s see how things shake out over the next year or two.

I’ve been on Reddit for nearly 15 years (since just prior to the digg migration), but it is nothing like what it used to be - it’s changed, man, and not at all for the better. Lemmy definitely feels more like Reddit of old, and I’m excited to be here - now I just need to find my hobby communities and I’ll have my new internet home. But the communities will come, the apps will come, and I have high hopes. Let’s go!

setsneedtofeed,

I'd add a third reason that killing the apps materially affects all the people who were die hard app users. Previous proposed reddit boycotts were over some issue like the site firing the woman who organized the AMAs or some other moderation issue that for the most part didn't impact the rest of the experience of browsing. It's easy to forget how one subreddit got ruined or some admin drama because it feels distant from day to day browsing. Taking away the apps is impossible to avoid. App users can't just shrug about all this drama and go back to browsing the way they are accustomed to. Opening that official app is going to be a constant reminder of how ugly all this was. It will make sticking to a boycott much easier I think.

CannaVet,

Welcome! I just came over yesterday because I submitted a report, WHICH WAS ACCEPTED AND ACTIONED BY REDDIT, then got a week ban for abusing the report feature.

I guess they don't want us tying up resources as they work overtime to alienate the users that make Reddit worth a shit. 🤷

blindsight,

I just got banned from some of my subs for spamming their mod queue by accident... I edited all my visible comments to 4 archive.org links about the API changes. It triggered AutoModerator a zillion times.

I was going to let those comments sit for a bit before deleting my account.

That's not really related to what you're saying, but I guess I just wanted to share it with someone!

CannaVet,

That sucks.

I had already nuked my 15 year heckload of karma "main" because I ran afoul of a super mod with some fairly innocuous opinion. Got banned from one sub, confused I modmail to ask what's wrong and how I can fix it, get muted and immediately banned from upwards of 10 other subs. 🤣

Gave em a piece of my mind and killed it, because I'll be damned if I let some butthurt waffle bully me like the internet is some sorta "real world."

poke,

It really seems like they are tying to tackle two issues at once here (LLM training on reddit data, revenue from 3rd party apps) and they aren't doing a great job at communicating why they are making the API changes. It doesn't help that the company has a history of making empty promises, so nobody trusts a word they say.

CannaVet,

It doesn't help that they're lying through their teeth trying to throw somebody under the bus who thought ahead and brought the receipts to the party 😂

literallyacat,

I just joined beehaw myself (was fumbling around on mastodon for a while but to me it feels too much like a twitter clone). So far I'm really enjoying the genuine interactions on here. Very much has an old reddit vibe that hopefully will survive even with the upcoming mass migration!

Dalek,

I completely agree. It feels a lot like reddit did when I joined over a decade ago.

forawhile,

this is how i describe it to people looking for a new home after 3rd party massacre at reddit. Lemmy == 2007 reddit.

fl1ghtless,

I just deleted my account which was over 10 years old. I don't need that kind of negativity. Only positivity from here on out. Keep being awesome Lemmy.

Riyria,

I probably won't delete my reddit account until the subreddits that I'm relatively active in gain a bigger presence on Lemmy, but if that happens, bye bye reddit.

bernieecclestoned,

Just speed ran an account to 125k karma in 3 months because I like numbers, but the site is dross now, any individual thoughts are downvoted. It's just one big circlejerk

brokendolphin,

lol. You talk about how you game the system to speedrun big numbers for imaginery points. Then complain that reddit isn't what it was and theres no individual thoughts. ... Do you not see the irony of that comment?

bernieecclestoned,

Not only do I see it, I feel it.

TheSkoomaCat,

11 year old account here, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger. So much time spent on niche subs that will be hard to replace, but I suppose that means I should be more active in any similar counterparts on Lemmy to help them grow and flourish.

pkulak,

16-year-old account for me. I probably won't delete it, because it doesn't do me any good to do that, but I'm not really showing up anymore. Especially after I have to delete Apollo.

gredo, (edited )

What's keeping you from creating those niche communities here? As long as it's still a manageably small community here, moderating it wouldn't be much of a hassle.

Go for it!

Moneymunkie,
@Moneymunkie@beehaw.org avatar

Thats true, mean if somethings just constantly giving you grief rather than any enjoyment then how much good is it really to be using it? Lifes already enough of a pain lol

omarciddo,

I don’t have that fortitude yet, haha. My account is from 2007. Have my little Colbert Rally badge on it from a goofier, tighter-knit time on Reddit. Feels more like a monument than a home now, though.

TheBurlapBandit,

You can request all of your Reddit data somewhere in the settings if that would help``

SammichParade,

I'm currently looking for this, and I don't think Reddit has a feature that's what this sounds like. On Facebook you can download all your data, photos, posts, comments, in one big pile. Closest thing I can find on Reddit (which only came up when I googled it externally) is a form you can submit to request what data Reddit has "about" your account. And they request 30 days processing time.

Lowbird,

You can use the 3rd party scripts that are usually for mass editing/deleting to save all your comments/posts, I think, and without editing/deleting if you don't want to. Like Power Delete Suite and Redact. But that doesn't save other peoples' replies, or the post you made a comment on, so far as I know.

blindsight,

They don't work for frequent posters. I could only save my top 600? comments, 1000 most recent comments, and 600? most controversial comments, which is only maybe 10% of what I've written.

Realistically, that's plenty, though. I don't need a museum of everything I've written on the site, but I can open it up if I'm ever nostalgic for it.

Amiral_Poitou,

I still don't understand how everything works here but I love the positivity I see !

OhSnapKracklePopped,

I opened Apollo yesterday and got the notification it was going to be shutting down on the 30th. It was such a bummer—I really don’t plan on going back to Reddit now. Treat it like Quora, at best.

aplomBomb,

I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit pulls an insta and starts hiding its content behind an account wall.

Amiral_Poitou,

It's already what they are trying to do on mobile (first with NSFW content, but they blocked the old mobile interface...)

Lowbird,

They're going to block NSFW for apps that use their new paid API too, last I heard. Which makes no sense but there you go. >.>

And yeah I suspect old reddit's days are numbered on desktop too.

setsneedtofeed,

Yes, removing NSFW from API was part of the initial announcement.

Today during the AMA, somebody asked about it and the CEO's reply was that because NSFW carries potential legal risk it was pulled from the API but would still be on reddit itself. Which is an answer that makes absolutely no sense.

Pretty clear the real intention was to make sure any apps that didn't die from being priced out would be lacking the horny content that brings people to the site.

johnthedoe,

I think I'm going to still use reddit to solve certain problems when googling. It's still a good resource for solving specific problems. Just won't spend any browsing time there. Just in an out.

Echolot,

Same here, Google has slowly become unusable for certain topics if you don't append "reddit" to your search.

nevird,

I started using DuckDuckGo actively in 2014. It has since been my primary search engine. It used to be very similar to google: minimalist, an ad placed as the first search result and that’s it. DDG has stayed pretty much the same. The few times I now wander on google to try to get different results, I just find it so unusable. Search results are swimming in an ocean of suggested content… I’m never going back.

CannaVet,

Brave Search is getting better as well. The browser is already pretty solid, I'm using it now.

setsneedtofeed,

I use brave on my phone. It autoblocks youtube ads, which is nice.

Lowbird,

I do the same. It feels exactly the same, if not slightly better than, google search, now that search is so drowned in SEO spam anyways.

crisisingot,

It's way too hard to cut through the search engine optimized spam when googling something now. Especially for product recommendations all you get are random top X lists.

literallyacat,

Yes! and when you actually click on them you realize the term you searched was only used by those pages as seo and aren't actually mentioned anywhere in there.

404name,

I've noticed I'll type in the exact name of the website but forget the .com to tell my browser to go directly there, so it will do a search. My results show the site I was looking for halfway down the page, with the first half being ads and even competitors of the site! I'm not searching for items from the site but the site itself yet Google is so useless it shows me a bunch of similar stuff even when I gave it a specific.

Evolone,
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Definitely relate to this! If I google something and one of the top results is a Reddit post, I’m usually pretty excited because it means other people having similar issues will be able to offer advice on my particular use case. And there’s so much content already on Reddit that you’re very likely to find something helpful!

chris,

Yeah, it's so useful because you get suggestions from real users along with discussion and a voting system. You're not just relying on an algorithm to point to a poorly written list with the right keywords stuffed in. Oh, you're looking for the best xyz? Here's a list of Amazon affiliate links chosen by an "expert." No thanks.

mAXorz,

Same here, for porn only.

kylewritescode,

I went to Reddit today.... also, and deleted my account. :)

effingnerd,

Reddit gets maybe 15 minutes a day from me at this point. I'm not even sure I want a replacement for it. I'll be removing my reddit app from the phone on blackout day. Maybe I'll reinstall, maybe I won't.

This place seems nice, though.

Satiric_Weasel,

I had a realization last night.

Used to spend a lot of time on reddit on ttrpg subreddits reading about how other people were running their games instead of working on my own campaigns. Now, a lot of the time I would have spent reading about how someone else was doing the thing I wanted to, I'm just doing it. The dynamic is inverted.

This is what healing looks like.

Xer0,

This is where everyone wants to end up I think. Using these sites less for discussing this stuff, and instead actually doing it.

pushka,
@pushka@beehaw.org avatar

Ya - big social media companies are trying to make addictive products - so not the best for getting things done~

LemmyAtem,

You know what? YOU'RE WELCOME BRO (or gal)!

Zagaroth,

I've curated my subreddits pretty well, so I will miss some of them if they don't move over here or someplace similar. But there's enough going on that I think it will not be too bad.

tsubaki,

That's my biggest concern as well. I mean, I have no loyalty to reddit as a platform, but it does have vibrant communities for the numerous (and often niche) things that I am interested in. So divorcing myself from reddit almost entirely will be... difficult, but frankly, the platform has been going to shit for a while now and a kick in the butt to leave was sorely needed.

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