lemmy.fmhy.ml is gone [update from the team]

An update:

  • fmhy.ml is gone, due to the ongoing fiasco with mali government taking all their .ml domains back
  • As such, lemmy.fmhy.ml is also gone, we are currently exploring ways to refederate (or somehow restart federation entirely) without breaking anything substantial
  • We have backups, so don’t worry about data loss (you can view them on other instances anyway)

Currently, we have fmhy.net and are exploring options to somehow migrate, thank you for your patience.

syntax,

This is why we host our instance on a .org. Honestly another huge blow for Lemmy. It doesn’t really inspire confidence in the platform. Hopefully after enough time passes smaller instances like us and the bigger ones left will have help up a good track record to inspire confidence again.

Poiar,

Only one went down - most everyone else are still up.

This is the opposite of a blow. It directly shows the resilience of the fediverse.

syntax,

Where I live i cant access any .ml instances so for me even the lemmy.ml is down

Poiar,

This just shows how putting all eggs into one basket is a bad idea.

Only the fewest of few instances should have used .ml - they should have spread out. This is the beauty of the fediverse when done as intended.

The only drawback I see, is that people want to make instances bigger, scaling tall, when they should have been scaling wide + wanting to use the same odd TLD. We reap what we sow.

ArcaneSlime,

This isn’t really that huge of a blow, it’s a learning curve sure but just because some people made dumb decisions on what TLD to use based on something they decided it means (and backtracked to say they chose it because it was free, I know) doesn’t mean federated platforms don’t work. Actually imo it points to the strength of federation that we can still be here using lemmy on our instances while they switch.

All this really did was teach instance owners (who this might be their first experience hosting things too btw) that you have to use a TLD that is more stable like a .org, .com, .net, etc over a “free” one, and this is afaik the first instance of something like this happening, so honestly they didn’t have precedent to base this on before.

gizzle,

Exactly, IMO this has nothing to do with lemmy itself and everything to do with dumbass domain names.

syntax,

By no means did i mean that federated platform’s wont work, far from it. Im more considering the reputational damage of the platform. For me all the .ml instances unresolvable. And it doesn’t look good when the “official” instance is lost. If i were an outsider considering moving to lemmy and i saw vlemmy disappear, lemmy world get hacked, and .ml loosing their domains id be pretty hesitant on making the switch. Thats where i sit for the moment. Lets all hope we can get a good track record going now.

wtry,

What happens when it goes down, will all of the posts be gone?

Nfntordr,

I hope FMHY comes back. Didn’t realise how much I liked it until it was gone.

Oppawaifu,

First I join Vlemmy.net and then FMHY.ML… I am afraid whatever instance I join next will collapse 😭

veniasilente,

Are you me? Same instances, same order…

…same fear.

redcalcium,

.ee is owned by Estonia. Just pray Estonia wouldn’t do the same shenanigan and cause your instance to go down.

8orange8,

tbf Estonia is a stable EU country and Sunaurus (the admin of lemm.ee) is from Estonia so it’s not that strange

AChiTenshi,

I also joined vlemmy.net and it came down between fmhy.ml and sh.itjust.works. Guess I got lucky!

caboclo,
@caboclo@lemmy.eco.br avatar

what happened with vlemmy?

AChiTenshi,

The instance up and disappeared right after it’s admin said they were going g to defederate with another instance. There was no warning it was just gone the next day.

There is lots of speculation around it, but I think the admin got scared of the implication that their servers still held content from the other instance that was illegal in their country.

caboclo,
@caboclo@lemmy.eco.br avatar

oh thanks.

Misconduct,

I’m sorry but for the good of all instances I’m afraid you will need to become a lurker 😔

rm_dash_r_star,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

Thanks for that, was concerned about keeping my subscription to that community. Keep us posted and let us know where you end up so I can change over my community subscription.

Anyway I think the lesson learned here is don’t use free TLDs. Lemmy is not at all designed to deal with domain name changes.

CMahaff,

I posted this on another thread about this, but I’ll repost it here:

I have made a tool that can backup / copy your account settings, subscriptions, and blocks to a new account: github.com/CMahaff/lasim

There are others out there as well if you look.

Obviously the loss of .ml communities would still be catastrophic to Lemmy, but at least your new account won’t start from ground-zero, and you can be less effected by downtime by having 2 accounts with the same subscriptions.

edythecullen,
@edythecullen@lemmy.world avatar

Super useful, thanks! 👍

Riker_Maneuver,
@Riker_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Fantastic tool; thank you. I’ve been keeping 2 accounts—just in case—and this simplifies it significantly.

RagingRobot,

Now that we see things like this can happen, maybe we can make it easier to resolve going forward.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Because this caught everyone by surprise or was there some indication that things would just continue business as usual? The registrar has known the contract ended since it was signed 10 years ago, I would figure this would have been accounted for.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

IDK, but registrars are generally shitty and exploitative. I’d be surprised if they volunteered that info

saffron,

Hello! I’m new to Lemmy, could someone break this down like I’m 5 and explain what it means for the people who were already on there?

null,
@null@zerobytes.monster avatar

It means anybody who will want to go to site lemmy.fmhy.ml will not load site and would think its down, maybe some will find out on google about it, some are already on multiple instances…

Also all links to lemmy.fmhy.ml are dead/gone now.

Btw the domain *.ml was free as i read, at least they could get some 1-5 USD domain name extension.

rm_dash_r_star,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

Only instances with a “.ml” at the end of the name may or may not be affected. Lemmy is a collection of instances so the loss of a few will not cripple the whole thing. Content over the whole is not greatly affected.

If your home log-in instance is one that’s affected, you’ll have to find a new one. You’ll know right away because the instance will be unreachable. Not a big deal, last time I looked there was over 1200 instances to chose from.

Another consideration is any communities living on an affected instance may have issues. All communities are common to Lemmy, but each originates from a particular instance. We’ve not yet seen a major instance go down so I don’t know how Lemmy deals with communities getting orphaned like that.

nix,
@nix@merv.news avatar

Lemmy has had such a crazy month and a half. Insane growth, XSS injections, DDOS attacks, admin takeover, domain name seizures. What a wild ride

Rentlar,

My boy Lemmy is growing up!

ImOnADiet,

What’s this about an admin takeover?

akazoo,

I think they are referring to this

ImOnADiet,

oh, the XSS injection? I thought it would be some admins fighting over who owned the instance or something like that lol

comcreator,

Facts. And such drama does make Lemmy more appealing in a way

shotgun_crab,

That’s how every service starts. Let’s keep going

activator90,

Welcome to the real world

such_fifty_bucks,

And we’re still here, going strong. Long live the Fediverse.

Nfntordr,

and still better than using official Reddit app (and still better than Reddit overall) lol

nix,
@nix@merv.news avatar

I’ve been seeing posts from users on lemmy.ml though? How’s that possible

Zeth0s,

They are probably paying for the domain

Sir_Simon_Spamalot,

have fmhy not paying for theirs?

magnor,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

No, that is the crux of the matter. They used freedom, which offered .ml for free.

redcalcium,

I’d like to think FMHY was true to their name and didn’t pay for the domain.

Zeth0s,

No idea… Sorry

nyakojiru,
@nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Good timing for Reddit …. Wait….

eddietrax, (edited )
@eddietrax@dmv.social avatar

I initially started on Lemmy.ml but decided to look for smaller instances. Not only just to be safe for stuff like this, but also to find a tighter community. I found an instance dedicated to the area I grew up around and have been really happy with that move.

th4,

Prolly a noob question but why was the .ml TLD chosen in the first place?

effingjoe,
effingjoe avatar

The scuttlebutt is that it's a inside joke by the far-left dev of lemmy to stand for marxist-leninist, but it's just as likely, if not more, that it was chosen because it's free.

Keep in mind that most (all?) two-letter TLDs are associated with a country. This includes stuff like .io, .tv, and .me

Blaze,

It was free

panja,
@panja@lemmy.world avatar

I can see that it’s enticing to get a free domain… But domain costs are trivial. Like $10 a year, why risk it?

Blaze,

Well, I guess they just learned the hard way

SpikesOtherDog,

I migrated, but I would happily rejoin under a different tld.

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