These mods on their power-trips really need to stop

I just got banned from linux@lemmy.ml, which seems to be the biggest Linux community out there.

For context, it was about the recent Vaxerski incident, where I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff. I wasn’t even trying to be hurtful against anyone, just shared my 2 cents in an already ongoing conversation.

Sure, ine might not agree with my opinion, and I don’t agree with others, and this is totally normal. But at least we should be able to have sane and respectful conversations where no one is insulting each other, or anyone else… without having a mod intervening into the conversation

So to all the mods out there: Your personal opinion does not give you the right to delete comments and block users, just because their opinions don’t align with yours!

Ategon,
@Ategon@programming.dev avatar

It looks like you were temp banned from the linux community for 3 days

The comment you made was transphobia which goes against the programming.dev code of conduct. I suggest reading the comment of the user who replied to you and learning how to respect people more

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/580b4329-f15d-45bd-b978-cd5a3dcc93b2.png

This comment

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/bd3e4978-62eb-45fd-be9d-f5a7a00f01d9.png

does not qualify as a “respectful conversations where no one is insulting each other, or anyone else”

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

thx, didn’t know I could look it up, and also didn’t receive a notification.

Ategon, (edited )
@Ategon@programming.dev avatar

Yeah lemmy currently doesn’t send notifications about moderation actions

Some mod teams add it in through manually dming (which usually will happen here if someone on the admin team is warning, banning, etc. you (apart from site bans which the user wouldn’t be able to access their messages from) and its not just an obvious spammer or bot) or code their own systems to notify about actions

Everything’s viewable in the modlog though and you can filter by yourself to see all actions made relating to you

Hello_there,
  • "I'm being persecuted!"
  • receipts come and it's totally justified

Every time.

SharkAttak,
SharkAttak avatar

Username checks out.

papaya,

If anyone wants to know why this user was banned.

lupec,

As soon as I saw it was about “the whole gender stuff” I knew it had to be some garbage bigoted take lol

yuki2501,
@yuki2501@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the info.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

On par for people complaing about a ban.

Tywele,

I love open mod logs.

Lifecoach5000,

Thanks for the recap. My upvote for this post is now a downvote.

ad_on_is, (edited )
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

As I said, this is my opinion, I didn’t impose my opinion onto others and i certainly don’t expect everyone to agree with me.

But I don’t think a perma-ban from the whole community is the right answer here.

NoIWontPickAName,

It was a temp ban

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

thx, just realized it’s 3 days… didn’t even know I could look it up, and I also didn’t get notified about the ban (or at least not in the app that I’m using now)

intensely_human,

Also be less naive. Mods are going to power trip. This is not kindergarten it’s 17th century French aristocracy.

Lolman228,

So we start beheading mods?

intensely_human,

That’s 18th century

ZeroCool,

OP received a 3 day temporary ban for violating the instance’s rule against transphobia. That in no way, shape, or form, constitutes a moderator “power trip.”

intensely_human,

Just out of curiosity, can you define transphobia? That’s a rhetorical question.

SharkAttak,
SharkAttak avatar

Are you dumb or just don't own a dictionary? It's a rethorical question.

dariusj18,

The funniest part is that privileged people get pissy about being called by their title all the time, it does sometimes materialize in jokes, but that’s still punching up.

As a fun experiment I misgender bigots until they got mad about it. It doesn’t take long.

Flax_vert,

Was it to do with neopronouns?

ZeroCool, (edited )

Lmao. So OP is unwilling to show others the simple courtesy of respecting their gender identity then comes running here to whine about dIsReSpeCt because their bigoted hot take got them a three day ban from a community. 🙄

Edit: Ooooh and they’re on a three day old account too? In that case I give it an hour or two before they realize they aren’t getting any sympathy here and run to r/RedditAlternatives to complain about “censorship” on Lemmy and lament the lack of freeze peach reddit alternatives.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

Regarding my account… I was previously on lemmy.world, (under the same username) but moved to programming.dev since world defederated from piracy@dbzer0, and I didn’t want to have multiple accounts.

So yeah, it’s new in that manner, but I’m surely not a troll.

shrugal, (edited )

I think the ban was a little too harsh, but removing that comment was the right decision.

I also see a few problems with your “your highness” comparison:

  1. “Your highness” is an official title, not a personal designation. Its proper usage depends heavily on the context, e.g. the perceived social rank and status, how well people know each other, if it’s a formal or informal conversation, and so on. Pronouns have none of that, you just use the one people identify as and that’s it.
  2. It implies that people just pick whatever term they can come up with to mess with others or to mock them. People don’t choose a pronoun lightly, they usually think about it a lot and it’s an important personal decision. They also usually pick one of the common pronouns, so it’s really not hard to just use it.

Making quick logical comparisons regarding social norms is a very tricky thing in my experience. There are many things going on that we aren’t fully aware of all of the time, and getting it wrong can hurt people badly.

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff.

Keep your shitty opinions that don’t concern others to yourself. Seems like people are not interested

shrugal, (edited )

Downvote it to oblivion then, but disagreeing or not being interested is no reason to remove a post.

Edit: Saw the post. I think the removal was valid, but the ban was a little harsh. And not being interested had nothing to do with it.

Boiglenoight,

Just say they. Not he/she. They. End of argument.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

Well, my @programming.dev account got banned!

I guess, I’ll just have to shut up, and just keep posting memes. 🤷🏻

Catoblepas,

Thanks for telling on yourself so I can block this account too. Please continue replying with any more alts you have so I don’t miss any.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

wait, you can block my account even if you’re not on lemmy.world?

A_A,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

Hi adONis,
a “block” is not a “ban”. e.i. : if I have account ABC and from that ABC account I block user 123 then, from ABC I cannot read anything posted by 123 but I would be able to read 123’s posts from my other accounts (and so would anybody else).

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

oh ok, I thought the previous OP was some kind of mod on one of the instances I had signed up for.

thx for clarifying 👍

Catoblepas,
amio,

On one hand I'd love to do the usual shitting on .ml for being .ml. On the other, this one genuinely is on you.

spujb,

sorry buddy but you did transphobia. whether or not you are in the mood to label it as such that’s what it was.

i have beef with power tripping mods as much as you but this is in no way an example of that.

edit: also it was a three day ban? i have seen folks permabanned for similar. be thankful you are allowed to return, look inwards and do some self examination instead of complaining.

CrayonRosary,

Welcome to my block list. I guess I’m power tripping.

fartington,

Maybe truth social is more appropriate for you.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

I got banned there too for not being any kind of phobic 😥

intensely_human,

What you fail to understand is that in cyberspace, people can do whatever they want to do.

You say mods don’t have this or that right, but rights don’t enter into it. They have that power, and they use that power.

ML is a brittle place based on a lie. Expecting them to behave in a fair way toward opinions was extremely naive of you.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

I’ve heard about them, but I thought this was only in (political) communities I don’t even participate in.

yuki2501,
@yuki2501@lemmy.world avatar

Okay you’re being a bigot. You know why? Because people aren’t demanding to be called “your highness”. They are just asking to be called with their preferred probouns. Putting neo pronouns aside, it’s not a heavy burden to be called he / she / it / they.

And this is the internet! The are no bodies, only usernames. Why do you care if a person claiming to be a girl demands to be called a she? Oh my fucking god,what a scandal! The oppression imposed upon you, a free citizen, demanding that you have to use a pronoun different than “he” on the internet! The world is doomed! 😱 /s

What you’re really asking for is the “right” to harass trans people (by misgendering them) because you don’t like them and abhor the idea of women having something extra down there. (it’s not like they’re plotting to force sex you, just leave them be, okay?) Not only that, you’re so obsessed with hating them that you went out of your way to post your biased opinion ON A LINUX FORUM.

You’re being a transphobic asshole, and the mods were perfectly right in banning you.

Just accept that there are different people in the world. If you have a problem with that, maybe it’s you who needs professional help.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@programming.dev avatar

Lol, that LINUX FORUM was literally about that topic. And I just participated in an already ongoing conversation which I got caught up on.

yuki2501,
@yuki2501@lemmy.world avatar

Even then, you’re still a bigot. Dude, grow up and touch some grass.

marathon,

Totally agree, opinion shouldn’t enter into such decisions. It’s emotional immaturity to do so.

elbarto777,

You lost me at “immaturity” here.

marathon,

Why is that? Many don’t have it or the credibility to determine what’s accurate or not.

elbarto777,

Because you don’t call grownups immature. It’s dumb.

marathon,

Well, some alleged grownups are exactly that. Especially ones that believe our western propaganda without critical thinking skills.

elbarto777,

What you describe may be undesirable behaviors, but that’s not immaturity.

Lack of critical thinking, stubbornness, indoctrination, ignorance, whatever you want to call it. Not immaturity.

B1naryB0t,

Just in case the mod responsible is here in the room with us, just wanted to say thank you.

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