JadenSmith,

Is this for both desktop and mobile versions? Sorry if that is a silly question.

evan,

Probably desktop. Or desktop and android. Remember that iOS locked down the browser years ago and require any third parties to run on safari’s bones.

DarkThoughts,

Definitely not Android. Firefox is unfortunately quite a bit slower than Chrome based browsers. I still use it as I don't really do much on my phone, but I hope they can optimize it further.

DestroyMegacorps,

I use Firefox on android (specifically fennec f droid) and i use it since ublock origin can be installed and my fennec is hardened too

1chemistdown,
1chemistdown avatar

Chrome and Firefox are building iOS browsers that do not require the apple WebKit. Everyone, including apple, expect apple to drop that requirement soon to help avoid antitrust issues.

subtext,

That’s quite good to hear, do you have any further reading that you know of?

Edit: here’s the top article from DDG - theregister.com/…/mozilla_google_apple_webkit/

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

expect apple to drop that requirement soon to help avoid antitrust issues.

I’m surprised it took this long.

TwinTurbo,

This is specifically for the Windows version. You can also find Linux and Mac results here by selecting the OS from the drop-down list at the top.

substill,

I only see Chromium and Chrome on the speedometer for Linux, not Firefox. Am I missing something?

TwinTurbo,

Here’s what I see: i.ibb.co/g9yLrmp/image.png

garam,

I think for now it’s on desktop Windows? But on Linux I do notice faster react app load like reddit new design is faster. But I use lemmy, so it doesn’t matter now.

laxe,

Why is Chromium slower than Chrome?

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

So, a larger number is better for this speed benchmark?

Xyz3R,

The real question

massive_bereavement, (edited )
massive_bereavement avatar

~~Wild guess: APM? ~~

Edit:
It seems that chromium here on these benchmarks is unoptimized and it depends on what flags where enabled during building time: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/6q3AyYacjOo/m/XKQMdW4fBgAJ

spunker88,

I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is keeping certain performance enhancements closed source so they can have a competive advantage over the competition that uses the Chromium source. They have been slowly making Android open source worse by not updating parts and moving things to closed source Google Play apps.

sepiroth154,

So when Google removed don’t be evil, they really meant it. It shows more and more each day.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

“Who put this ‘Don’t’ here? We’ll just get rid of that!”

IlllIIIlllIlllI,

“We’re open source but not open source enough to your liking” is a VERY strange criteria for “evil” when most other commercial software companies are not open source at all.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

They didn’t remove “don’t be evil”. It’s still there today: abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/ (final paragraph)

JshKlsn,
@JshKlsn@lemmy.ml avatar

Wow. I’ve heard that rumour being spread all over the place for YEARS now, and you’re the first to pull up proof that it’s still there. Interesting!

Corgisocks,

It looks like the code of conduct used to include a preface about don’t be evil, that’s what was removed.

“Preface Don’t be evil.” Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users. But “Don’t be evil” is much more than that. Yes, it’s about providing our users unbiased access to information, focusing on their needs and giving them the best products and services that we can. But it’s also about doing the right thing more generally – following the law, acting honorably, and treating co-workers with courtesy and respect.

The Google Code of Conduct is one of the ways we put “Don’t be evil” into practice.”

ThoughtGoblin,

They’re just build flags or compiler versions being different, no need to be melodramatic.

whoami,

even when chrome was obviously faster, and was gaining in popularity, I still used FF. It’s my preferred browser, and using it along with ublock origin makes going online more hassle free. Add to that multi account containers, reader mode, and just the general ability to customize it, I really can’t see myself using another browser

garam,

Multi account Container is the only thing make me stay also… I can’t live without it, tbh.

whoami,

they’re pretty great imo

iod,
@iod@lemmy.ml avatar

Firefox in general is faster for me than Chrome in many pages

However a notable exception are web games and web based game emulators. They’re a lot slower on Firefox and i get horrible sound crackling whereas on Chrome its much better. It’s been like this for years with no seeming improvement.

garam,

Please open bug ticket in Mozilla Bugzilla. It will help the Firefox development further. 🎊

MrFagtron9000,

Why is Chrome’s performance so much better than Chromium?

Anticorp,

Because Google throttles all it’s services, including AMP, for every non-google browser.

Reamen,

Nice. I think it’s time for me to try it again. I want to start getting away from google as much as possible.

Chadus_Maximus,

The only thing that kept me was YouTube performance. Once Firefox improved that I saw no reason to stay.

const_void,

Firefox has been and will continue to be the best browser available

MumboAttribute7322,

I wonder how battery usage compares on a MacBook between these 2 and Safari.

garam,

Safari will always win because they are optimized to the HW and only for that HW…

Same as edge… I do have some hack on Linux, but it sacrifice js capabilities and background pages, but achieve the same as safari in Mac or Edge on Windows

superuser.com/a/1500728

beerclue,

I’m proud of Firefox, but man, that’s a bad graph :)

Morphior,

I have been using Firefox for basically as long as I can remember and I love it. However, there’s one website that I go to Chromium for: GeoGuessr/Google Street View. For some reason it’s unbelievably slow and sluggish in Firefox whereas it works normally in Chromium. Why could this be? To be clear, it’s only the Street View part (and moving/panning/zooming) that’s slow on GeoGuessr.

garam,

Anything that Google site engineering mostly against web standard, and pushing chromium standard. So I don’t even… Surprised I guess?

witherscarf,

I had this issue and there’s an easy fix - there’s a bug with GMaps street view where it starts to lag on FF on Linux specifically, but as soon as you spoof your user agent to something Windows based like FF Windows or Chrome Windows, it’s back to full speed. So get an extension to change your user agent string to Windows and you’ll be fine.

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/uaswitcher/

blueson, (edited )

It wouldn’t surprise me if the implementation has bias towards Chromium based browsers as both street view and Chromium are from Google.

wizardbeard,

They were literally caught artificially slowing down page loads and responsiveness on non-chrome browsers a while back.

Raymonf,

Do you mean the time when YouTube’s UI was built using a pre-standardized version of the Shadow DOM API, and had to polyfill it in Firefox? If so, that was tech debt, not artificially slowing down page loads for Firefox on purpose. It was a tradeoff that let non-Chrome users use YouTube until they finally upgraded a year or two later.

If that’s not it, I’d love to see what you’re referring to.

Simulation6,

I stopped using Firefox because it had issues playing videos. I also ran into a number of web sites that were displayed badly.

garam,

I don’t think site displayed badly is Mozilla problem, because there are web standard. If they don’t follow the standard, it won’t even show on anything I suppose, even chrome. But if in chrome it displayed neatly, then you need to ask to yourself, does that a website, or chromiumsite

corsicanguppy,

Remind me: Mozilla is the company that couldn’t cope with … building Mozilla. Right?

EmielBlom,

Nice! Although I have been using Firefox for years and never felt there was an issue with speed. Always been reliable for me.

Lemminary,

Same here. And wasn’t some of that speed difference artificial? Didn’t Google serve their pages slower on FF on purpose for a while? “Do no evil” and all…

deaf_fish,

Never heard of that before. It wouldn’t take much for me to believe it though. Anyone have a link?

Bleach7297,
@Bleach7297@lemmy.ca avatar

Normally I’d let you Google it, but given the topic

https://tech.co/news/google-slowed-youtube-firefox-edge-2019-04

ReepusVanguard,
@ReepusVanguard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Why does anyone use chome, its way worse then any other browser you can install, they put so much junk on it.

unceme,

There’s a lot of non-Chrome Chromium browsers.

orangeboats,

Not sure if it’s still a thing (I use DDG now), but back then when you visited Google on a non-Chrome browser, you would get a recommendation to use Chrome instead.

richyawyingtmv,

Forced to with work.

I utterly hate it. I don’t have it on my personal setup or android mobile - been using Firefox for twenty years now, not gonna stop!

kylostillreigns,

Don’t you have the option to use the Chromium Edge at your workplace? At least it has better features as compared to Chrome. My employer has all 3 of Chrome, FF & Edge installed but I use Edge over FF at office because they don’t allow 3rd party extensions.

Sacha,

What a world we live in where people are recommending what used to be Internet Explorer over Chrome.

Chadus_Maximus,

To be fair, internet Explorer used to be pretty good some time ago…

richyawyingtmv, (edited )

Nope, it’s completely locked down by IT policy restrictions unfortunately.

I can use portable installs but last time I got found out I got a right bollocking!!

Financial org, so everything is very black and white when it comes to IT and security policy, although I did argue my way into having Notepad++

ryannathans,

If you are on linux wayland, enable wayland mode for firefox and enjoy the huge performance boost

mvee,

This sounds like what I’m missing 😁

garam,

Sadly I’m using XFCE, and XFCE isn’t ready for wayland, so I will keep waiting until wayland stable enough on XFCE. Other DE isn’t suiting my taste tbh. well it’s mater of preference, but XFCE is stable roboust DE for me to keep me focus on works

orangeboats,

Good news: Xfce is working on Wayland support!

Bad news: We don’t know when it will be done…

garam,

Hahahaha… Well, let the dev team work in real life for a while tho. Hahaha

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