Saneless,

Ahh yes, those inventions literally over 100 years old are so hot and fresh

Kleysley,

Cars are over 100 years old too.

Saneless,

Yes that was my point. As are airplanes

DmMacniel,

Mhm that dedicated infrastructure could move cargo… just a thought. Perhaps some other country thought of that… Just maybe…

Oh yeah the rest of the fricking world does it for intracontinental!

cantstopthesignal,

www.economist.com/…/high-speed-railroading

We have the best freight rail system in the world.

Dohnakun,

Are you swiss?

uniqueid198x,

Expensive and dedicated infrastructure… Like the Eisenhower Interstate System

kender242,
@kender242@lemmy.world avatar

maybe monoxide did, but then I forgot

CannedTuna,

Flying is the worst too because you have to show up at minimum an hour early to get through security, then wait for the thing to show up and board, plus taxi time across the run way (some airports are awful about traffic).

Trains you just gotta get there with enough time to get on before it leaves.

lobut,

I always feel stressed when flying. I never or rarely feel stressed taking the train.

UserDoesNotExist,

(☞゚ヮ゚)☞ Come to Germany. And you will be stressed. Train infrastructure is a Desaster. It’s just not flexible enough to accommodate all destinations and cargo.

Dohnakun,

Though it is underfunded.

UserDoesNotExist,

Whenever something doesn’t work, then everyone claims that it is underfounded.

Maybe it’s just too complex to work properly. One mistake always starts a chain reaction and due to the centralised organisation of train infrastructure, there are not many options to solve diverse issues.

timbuck2themoon,

Disaster is relative. I’ve used it and can see its flaws but compared to other places, it’s still amazing.

UserDoesNotExist,

Intercity is actually a mostly enjoyable experience, if there wasn’t the horrendous price.

Regional travel though is a bad experience. Maybe not as bad as in India, or other countries with their own problems, but for European standards, it’s pretty shitty.

HobbitFoot,

The US technically has one high speed rail corridor.

shani77,

Train is the single most economically efficient way to travel wtf

Dohnakun,

No, that would be superconducting trains. Only one rail, no wheels and so on.

Ronno,
Ronno avatar

It depends on how many passengers it can transport in an area. Building a train infrastructure only for 100 people to use it will be less economically viable than having those people buy cars and build a road for them. It is all about perspective and every situation is different

HeckingShepherd,

I raise you walking.

JK I love trains

Nioxic,

Wasnt there an MIT study that proved on short distances walking is worse than driving?

Prandom_returns,

I understand that you are joking, but when you think about it, trains aew very likely more efficient and cleaner than a human (per kill metertravelled).

We need water, cooling, rest, food (that food needs water etc etc).

Just thinking out loud.

HeckingShepherd,

You are might be right but idk. It would be interesting because by walking the humans are getting exercise. If the humans would instead by getting exercise by running on a treadmill or playing a sport the inputs wouldn’t really change. You also have to account for the environmental costs of manufacturing the train and spread that over the km per person travelled

cynar,

I once saw a calculation. If someone rode a bicycle from London to Bournemouth (UK), fueled primarily by beef steak, it’s actually more CO2 emissions than driving a small efficient car. That was years ago too, so likely gotten even better.

I believe a more vegetarian based diet still wins however.

Madison420,

People eating a wholely natural diet and biking on cleanly made bikes is carbon neutral, most other forms of travel aren’t and won’t be as efficient because of it.

ghostcookies,

but that’s a car, so a train is most likely better

Maturin,

But the traveler is going to eat roughly the same amount whether he rides the bike or drives so there is little marginal carbon impacts from riding while 100% of the car emissions are marginal (since the alternate scenario produces none).

cynar,

It was the energy differential that was calculated. It was, originally, mostly a dig at how carbon inefficient beef farming was.

texas,

But the traveler is going to eat roughly the same amount whether he rides the bike or drives so there is little marginal carbon impacts from riding while 100% of the car emissions are marginal (since the alternate scenario produces none).

the part I think you are missing is the human can only eat so much because it takes not as long to go by car or train as opposed to walking

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