OC The demographics of Kbin | Survey

I'm curious about the demographic makeup of Kbin. As we are still in it's infancy I feel that most lean towards a certain way, so I made this survey just now to find out. I encourage you to join in, and you can skip any and every question if you so choose. You can view the results at the bottom of the page.

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

Education level options are...odd.
Some college, college degree
Some graduate school, grad degree
Etc

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

I was wrote this at 3 am leave me alone lol

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

UPDATE: New survey linke: https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

The results also has a cool pie chart that you can look it as well as the data.

Bandananaan,

Age ranges are skewed. Groups range from 6 - 15 years

FirstSeaLord, (edited )
FirstSeaLord avatar

I feel like separating gay and lesbian instead of just saying homosexual is cluttering things up. And idk, bisexuality is a thing?

Edit: also, political leanings become somewhat nefarious when I don't know if you're speaking in "American terms" or not.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

Sorry I rushed it out after the first poll locked out. I had bisexual before so I'll add it as soon as I can. I wanted gay and lesbian so people who wish to see the divide can do so I was hoping it wouldn't clutter too much and that's also another issue. I knew making this people would question the western and English speaking biases and whatnot but understand I struggle to reconciliate all the considerations while maintaining the data interesting and useful to look at/ digest

Roundcat,
Roundcat avatar

I love how the biggest divider between reddit and kbin demographics is that we seem to actually like Pineapple on pizza.

Flag,
Flag avatar

Whoa slow down, we aint monolithic!

I_Miss_Daniel,
I_Miss_Daniel avatar

It appears to be broken. I selected Australian, but it shows as zero in the results.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

It is not broken, it just completely stopped tallying. Apparently the free version of supersurvey has a limit of only fucking 25 responses, and of course they do not tell you this until you created an account and already sent out the survey and then asks you to pay $90 a month for this shitty webapp that breaks immediately.

I'm just going to have to make another survey; what a bust...

I_Miss_Daniel, (edited )
I_Miss_Daniel avatar

Maybe try Google Forms? https://alternativeto.net/software/google-forms/about/

Check that it doesn't reveal individual answers first I guess.

Might be a good idea to edit your original post as well, so people don't keep entering data in vain.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

Yep I've been carefully looking, even when creating this one! They got me good, I'm actually surprised there isn't a free alternative webapp out there for such a simple concept. That is definitely something that I will develop myself in the near future. But so far I found one that has allows to share the result page. So I'm working on it!

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

Alright I updated to a new form, just check the post again :)

techviator,
techviator avatar

Dang, what a bunch of atheist here... we'll all just burn in Reddit and our torture will be ads and posts about Zuckerberg and Musk. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar
FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

Bearing in mind, of course, that there's a lot of biases in your sample. You're sampling the demographics of /m/kbin, not kbin as a whole, and you're primarily targeting English-speakers since that's the language you wrote in.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

Yeah unfortunately it would be difficult to get a broad census on here. I would've posted in /m/askkbin, but that's explicitly disallowed. The English-speaking bias is a given, and that's why the countries list look the way it does, but kbin is probably vast majority English speaking, frankly.

Eavolution,
Eavolution avatar

I mean ernest is Polish, and I think there are quite a few Poles on here.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

They exist for sure, but the numbers are smaller and English speaking world has the plurality as well as the majority. Honestly I wish I could account for everyone equally as you would be surprised by whose on here.

I hate to lump Europe and Africa all together a well and then separate North America by country but as you can see in the results it's done out of pure necessity

Very_Bad_Janet,

Race was multiselect but picking more than one answer value did not display in the results. In that case it should've been radio buttons only for that question.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

I had to make a new survey check it out again and it should be fixed!

s6original,
@s6original@lemmy.world avatar

The results button results in a 404.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

I'm going to mess with the settings to see if I can fix it ASAP. For now I see if you don't select anything and press 'Skip' and then vote it takes you to the results. Thanks!

s6original,
@s6original@lemmy.world avatar

Yes your workaround works around this. Thank you.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

I clicked vote a few minutes ago and it took me right to the results successfully.

Using Firefox in case it is a browser thing.

livus,
livus avatar

I don't think it is working for me.

I'm in Oceania and the results say no one is in Oceania.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

It is not broken, it just completely stopped tallying. Apparently the free version of supersurvey has a limit of only fucking 25 responses, and of course they do not tell you this until you created an account and already sent out the survey and then asks you to pay $90 a month for this shitty webapp that breaks immediately.

I'm just going to have to make another survey; what a bust...

I'll use a better platform for this survey

livus,
livus avatar

That would explain it! I will stay tuned.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

Alright you can check out the new survey :D https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

livus,
livus avatar

That question about single married divorced widowed, is that how the US still collects demographic data?

It seems odd, given the choices in other sections reflect modern life more.

s6original,
@s6original@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with you and I live in the US. I’ve been single for 20 years…but I was married before that so I’m divorced. I guess you can never be single again.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

Perhaps a better option would have been "deflowered."

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

New and better survey link: https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

"Deflowered" isn't an option. :(

livus,
livus avatar

Yeah it's weird that you don't get to be single even though you are.

I haven't been single for over 20 years but I'm also not married or divorced or widowed.

s6original,
@s6original@lemmy.world avatar

The only way to get rid of the divorce stigma is to get married again. I already used that trick once.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar
Catch42,
Catch42 avatar

Yep, though the single option is often written as single/never married so that it's more clear. We don't have common law marriages (except a few states) so those 4 categories cover every situation, though without much detail.

livus,
livus avatar

We don't have common law marriages (except a few states)

Is that likely to change? I would have thought it would be big on human rights activists' agendas over there.

Catch42,
Catch42 avatar

I don't think so? I'm struggling to think of how it would enhance human rights. Isn't it the same as regular marriage without the trip to the local court? I always thought other countries had it as a penalty so that couples couldn't use cohabitating but not getting married as a tax loophole.

livus,
livus avatar

It's a human rights issue because of things like property law, adoption, next of kin rights. Sometimes people (often women) can be left financially vulnerable, especially if children are involved, if their relationship is not recognised under the law.

Couples don't get tax advantages over single people where I live either, so that part's a non issue.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

I had a updated the survey to a better platform, and included more options. :) https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

Yes, I was going to add "complicated" and maybe other options, but ultimately I decided not to but maybe I should? This was a generated question so that should answer your question.

I think though if it's of interest of people maybe I should. What do you think?

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Single, married, divorced, and widowed are legal concepts that cover everything that can without being overcomplicated with a million personal preferences and 'complicated' is meaningless without every single unique person's context.

Or add a separate question about whether they feel their situation is more complicated than that without muddling clear answers on legal status.

livus,
livus avatar

I guess this must apply to the society you and @Peacemeal12 live in, for sure. But I was actually talking about legal terms.

Where I live, civil unions and common law (de facto) relationships of more than 2 years have the exact same legal standing as marriage.

So the question usually includes De Facto, and Married or in a Civil Union.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

If they are the same as marriage then that is a distinction without a difference.

livus,
livus avatar

Depends on the purpose of the demographics.

I think collecting the stats on it first is probably a big part of why we slowly changed our laws to give them all the same rights - when we saw how many people were being affected.

livus,
livus avatar

@Peacemeal12 I wasn't thinking about "complicated" and stuff like that.

It's just the usual legal category for my relationship in my own country was missing and I was surprised it must be still like that in the US.

Peacemeal12,
Peacemeal12 avatar

I had to switch platforms for the survey, check it out: https://forms.office.com/r/Xadjwmt2Gm

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