ada, (edited )
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Gender may in part be a social construct, but that doesn’t make it not real. Social constructs are very real.

NickwithaC,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

Just what?

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I was going to say “just ask billionaires”, but then I’d have had to make it clear I was referring to the social construct of money. And I had a bus to catch, so I just removed it, except for a single word :)

Just

prime_number_314159,

Playing basketball is a social construct. No two people play basketball exactly the same, and many people don’t even play by the exact socially accepted rules. Despite all these things, we can still use imprecise, incomplete words to usefully communicate groups of shared behaviors and preferences, and even offer nuance about those sets of behaviors and preferences, when the situation calls for it.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s my very point. Basketball is a social construct, and it’s also real. It’s subjective, open to change, means different things to different people, but it’s still very real.

Transtronaut,

For anyone who wants this same point made in more detail, Philosophy Tube has a great video on it. youtu.be/koud7hgGyQ8?si=6yYv-uc9C9wh0_9E

boborhrongar,
@boborhrongar@lemmy.world avatar

Gender seems to at least be as real as anything else to some extent, that’s why gender dysphoria exists and people report not being able to change it. Large parts of it are socially constructed though. We’re not really 100% sure about it at the moment.

Sasha,

I’m no expert so don’t mistake this for truth (and I’m sure this is an abhorrent over simplification), but I’ve heard it better described as gender being a biological thing with gender roles being the social construct.

I don’t know that the difference really matters in practice anyway, I honestly didn’t care much for the way the person who claimed this thought everyone was causing harm by saying gender is a social construct.

violetraven,
@violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The genders are made up and the points don’t matter, but if one mf’er misgenders me, this house of cards collapses.

Mango,

It’s like genres. Helps you find similar music you like, but great songs can’t be contained by a category!

Franzia,

Source: I made it the fuck up

Evkob,
@Evkob@lemmy.ca avatar

This line of thinking got me to realize I’m non-binary.

Specifically this great YouTube video by Shonalika.

n3m37h,

Then why do you all care so much what you’re called then? [Serious]

FirstMajesticComet, (edited )
@FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The reason is because even things that are made up can hold a lot of importance to some people, especially when it’s how they view themselves and it is important to respect people’s wishes.

Edit: Person is obviously a troll from their history and this very likely was made with the intention of bigotry towards Trans and NonBinary people.

n3m37h,

You’re only partly right about me

Troll: correct, biggot: false

I could care less about what you do in your pealrsonal life, dress how you want, have sex with whom you want. But putting forward a stupid notion such as there being more than 2 genders is stupid. There are only 2 combinations of the xy chromosomes. What you feel does not affect this.

768,

I call bingo:

personal life (“Be gay somewhere else”)

chromosome (pronouns is when chromosome)

‘basic biology’

“Facts don’t care about you’re feelings”

stupid as insult

n3m37h,

Making shit up again? Can’t believe that someone doesn’t care why ya want to fuck? I don’t call a duck a horse because you feel it should be called a horse

FirstMajesticComet,
@FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

But putting forward a stupid notion such as there being more than 2 genders is stupid.

Yes that’s called enbyphobia, it is a type of transphobia, hatred or invalidation of a person’s identity which is Bigotry. Being a bigot is determined by behavior, not that you don’t consider yourself one.

There are only 2 combinations of the xy chromosomes.

Congratulations you just made an idiot of yourself again, as I am an Intersex with XXY and have the karyotype test proving it. I’m also not ashamed of it either.

n3m37h,

Ah yes the 1/100,000,000 genetic fuckup means we should make up 107 genders!

Y’all got nothing to be ashamed of except for making up so many stupid genders.

Does this mean down syndrome people are their own gender too?

Its just a silly notion.

Call me what ya want, just don’t be mad at people for not subscribing to the book of genders

768,

you all? [Gay]

n3m37h,

Yes referring to LGBT2ASXICKFJDKXJFNNDNZJSNAMKZJC E SMXJDNEJXJCNDNSXIDN movement

Smorty,

True.

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