0x4E4F,

Actually, you do… does it have higher authority than TrustedInstaller or SYSTEM?

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

No, just admin, which we could already do by running CMD as admin.

0x4E4F,

Then it’s fucking useless and that IS NOT sudo.

800XL,

Reverse engineer denuvo and other kernel-level anti-cheat gaming software and use those methods to write a real sudo command.

0x4E4F,

It’s already been done, it’s called PowerRun.

sordum.org/…/powerrun-v1-6-run-with-highest-privi…

Nothing special about it, it just runs everything you load into it as TrustedInstaller or SYSTEM.

800XL,

Nice. Thanks for sharing this!

0x4E4F, (edited )

I am Jack’s extremely surprised brain 🤨… I share Windows Update Blocker by the same company (well… sorta… I don’t think they’re a real company) and I constantly get backlash “it’s not open source, god knows what it’s doing in the background!”, even though I have analyzed the binary (to an extent) and never noticed anything malicious about it (and I have shared this as well with the community). BUT, I share this (also closed source) and people thank me 🤨? WTF 🤨…

Hubi, (edited )
clubb,
@clubb@lemmy.world avatar

Oh that second one has me in flames man

dephyre,
@dephyre@lemmy.world avatar
MajorHavoc,

“What’s a re-run?!”

JoMomma, (edited )

Are they actually naming the command “sudo” or is that just a comparison?

Edit: apparently yes, the audacity lol

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

Yes

Titou,

Looks like they didn’t even tried to hide it : learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sudo/

guiguinofake,

The sudo command offers a way to quickly elevate a command as administrator from your current unelevated command line context and is familiar to some users coming from other operating systems.

SpaceNoodle,

From any other operating system

guiguinofake,

TempleOS doesn’t have sudo, you just need to pray for a divine intervention.

sata_andagi,

You don’t need sudo, everything is already in Ring 0 as God intended.

FooBarrington,

Should have called it addo

fiddlestix,

Or ditto

lolcatnip,

What’s wrong with giving a command the same name as the equivalent command from other operating systems?

JoMomma,

That would be like calling the lynx command InternetExplorer

lolcatnip,

To me lynx is an application, whereas sudo is part of the OS, just like cp or cat. I know Linux sudo is maintained separately, but it’s part of what is expect in even the most minimal install of any Unix-like OS.

JoMomma,

Okay…

DavidGarcia,

don’t frogette about the new windows terminal

Titou,

kinda sad tbh

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

This has put me in mind of when OSX added virtual desktops. Everyone forgot that they’ve been a thing in *nix for 30 years, and NextOS (which OSX was built on top of) already had them. So Apple purposefully removed them, let people complain about not having them (and build their own 3rd party solutions) for something like 8 years, then got mountains of positive press for the “new innovation” of virtual desktops. Isn’t Apple amazing!

Great job Microsoft! I’m sure this is a game changer for the world.

aubeynarf,

fyi the NeXT OS is called NeXTSTEP.

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Thanks.

Jesus_666,

To be honest, the first incarnation of Spaces was really damn good; they deserved some credit for that. Then they made it worse so it matches iOS.

cm0002,

Ah MacOS, don’t forget they’re continuing to neuter root/sudo probably for some future goal of a walled garden desktop/laptop 🤮 for “privacy and security”

Rentlar,

Apple may introduce it again, but not before they get some trademark word for it like “Secure Ascension™”.

BolexForSoup,
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  • Bishma, (edited )
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I was in college at the time at a UCAID university and working for their student computing department at the time. But it was mostly the press that telling people who thought there were two types of computers (Apple and unusable) that they invented it. It was a topic of frequent conversation amongst the university staff and, as I remember, a frequent rant topic for John C Dvorak.

    const_void,

    Don’t forget all the UI/UX they’ve been copying from KDE. Working at Microsoft must be such an easy job when the open source community does all your work for you.

    Mio,

    Not so easy. Look at how often they have to redo the startmenu.

    captain_aggravated,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    A problem I have with the GPL is it allows corporations and shareholders to use software for free. I would be interested in licensing software I make for commercial use by sole proprietors and other small businesses for free, but charge truly offensive prices to entities that have “investors.” Like, Bob’s wood shop, where Bob, his son Rob, and Rob’s friend from high school Jimmy make butcher block counter tops? They can use my software for free. Microsoft? $600 trillion per seat per minute.

    eatham,
    @eatham@aussie.zone avatar

    How exactly do you want it? Publicly traded companiee can’t use it? That would affect small companies too, but being publicly tradable is more likely to make an evil company in the end. Companies over a certain valuation? That would have problems with interest and private companies like valve not having to tell people their valuation. Mix of both is probably best.

    captain_aggravated,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I would probably list out a series of symptoms of large businesses that don’t qualify for my non-corporate license.

    • The company itself, its owners, executives, board members, employees or any other persons associated with the company has spent more than $100 on lobbying since the invention of the written word. To include a middle manager that worked for the company for 2 weeks, quit, and then later went on to become involved in lobbying.
    • Any executive, board member, manager or such person currently or has ever had a contract that features any clauses that could be described as a "golden parachute."
    • The company has ever engaged in anti-union activity.
    • The company has ever outsourced jobs overseas because labor in developing countries is cheaper. Hiring outside one’s home country seeking better expertise ie “We contracted with a German machine shop because the sample work they turned in was of better quality” is okay; “We only have to pay Vietnamese teenagers 40 cents a day” isn’t.
    • The company publicly trades stock. That is to say random people mostly stock brokers and banks that don’t actually generate any value for society pays a little money and then expects dividents in perpetuity like ticks getting fat and bloated with the blood of higher life forms. These people may not financially benefit from my work more than I do.
    • The highest paid person who is in any way on the payroll of the company is paid more than 20 times the lowest paid employee.

    That’s probably a good start.

    eatham,
    @eatham@aussie.zone avatar

    That’s a pretty good list. I would say for 1 and 4 it should be in the past 50 years, to allow for companies to change. I would also add that anything the parent company or a company owned by the parent company that violates these rules also counts. Also, what is a “golden parachute”

    captain_aggravated,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    A “golden parachute” is basically a clause in the contract of a CEO or other higher up where the company agrees to pay severance benefits. I don’t have a problem with severance pay in general but some of these things are basically "No matter how much I embezzle and defraud, no matter how many people I kill, no matter how much damage I do, I get tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, to the degree of actually incentivizing getting hired and fired as much as possible.

    eatham,
    @eatham@aussie.zone avatar

    That’s pretty stupid.

    captain_aggravated,
    @captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Exactly.

    sbv,

    I’ll take it.

    Do they finally have an ls in the default path, or do I still need to alias that?

    lolcatnip,

    There’s an alias for it by default in PowerShell.

    QuazarOmega,

    Better install LSD:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">winget install --id=lsd-rs.lsd  -e
    </span>
    
    Hawk,
    cm0002,

    sudo systemctl disable telemetry

    This incident will be reported

    some_guy,

    Where’s my sandwich?

    bdonvr,

    sudo can only be elevated via the User Account Control (UAC) security feature designed to protect the operating system from unauthorized changes using verification prompt.

    lmao

    squid_slime,
    @squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m glad they’re teaching they’re user base linux, will make transitioning easier

    0x4E4F,

    I think you’re misunderstanding their goal.

    m_f,

    What parent is likely referencing

    TBH I wonder if the current Microsoft is capable of executing that here. I don’t believe in a “changed” MS, but Linux is eating the world, and MS doesn’t really care about Windows much anymore. Azure happily runs Linux VMs

    0x4E4F,

    They can still take a stab at it 🤷. Why else would you actually add something like this… it makes no sense to me.

    transientpunk,
    @transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Maybe they’re slowly working toward making Windows work on the Linux kernel in order to offload maintenance costs to the open source community… 👽🛸

    Evil_Shrubbery,

    Write FOSS next, quickly!!!

    QuazarOmega,

    They’re onto it already with a few apps surprisingly…

    Windows when?

    Evil_Shrubbery,

    Yeah, I know, but like imagine they pivot their full business model to foss.

    datavoid,

    Lol

    Honytawk,

    FOSS!

    Was that quickly enough?–

    Evil_Shrubbery,

    Thank you, now we just wait …

    Facebones,

    FOSS

    redcalcium,

    Step 1: Release cool FOSS apps and gain popularity.

    Step 2: The apps are still FOSS, but now most of the cool features are actually proprietary and running on the company’s servers. <— we’re here right now

    Step 3 (soon-ish): “Since our customers love our proprietary features so much, we’re no longer maintaining our FOSS version. Subscribe to our new pro subscription to continue accessing the apps”

    possiblylinux127,

    Honestly MS doesn’t even both hiding the fact that they want to you to use Windows so they can sell you subscriptions to proprietary software and the cloud.

    possiblylinux127, (edited )

    I can’t wait for their version to be totally broken compared to normal sudo on windows

    Nomecks,

    Where?

    possiblylinux127,

    Where is what?

    ricdeh,
    @ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

    They made fun of your grammar

    possiblylinux127,

    Thanks, I corrected my mistake

    rtxn,

    sudo can only be elevated via the User Account Control (UAC) security feature designed to protect the operating system from unauthorized changes using verification prompt.

    Doesn’t that defeat the entire fucking purpose of sudo?

    Guest_User,

    No, you can still run admin commands from a non admin console which is kind of neat.

    rtxn,

    “kind of neat” is being able to winrm into a machine without having to run a VNC session in parallel simply to click the popup. Taking the authentication prompt outside the shell session is… honestly, completely on brand for Microsoft.

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