MEATPANTS,

To drop a feature means to get rid of it. Words have meaning, guys

Wilzax,

Drop can mean to release or to discontinue, some words have two meanings, which gets selected via context.

taladar,

Confusingly enough to release can also mean to publish or to cut loose.

droans,

My favorite when reading sports news is “resign”.

It can mean that they quit or that they entered into a new contract.

chumbalumber,
krnl386,
@krnl386@lemmy.ca avatar

Who knows anymore with these youngsters’ vernacular?

MEATPANTS,

Hey I know it’s a week later, but I rarely log in to Lemmy.

If you read the headline, it could be interpreted either way. The only way to know the actual meaning is if you already knew what the article was about, but if I knew nothing about windows, I could easily assume that it had a feature called ‘sudo’ which is now being dropped.

Supporting this kind of behavior is how we ended up with the word ‘literally’ meaning both literally and figuratively. Source: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

Words can have multiple meanings, but If a word means one thing, but also the opposite of that thing, it adds unnecessary confusion. Not saying there aren’t many other examples, but I think it’s something we should try to avoid.

const_void,

Don’t forget all the UI/UX they’ve been copying from KDE. Working at Microsoft must be such an easy job when the open source community does all your work for you.

Mio,

Not so easy. Look at how often they have to redo the startmenu.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

A problem I have with the GPL is it allows corporations and shareholders to use software for free. I would be interested in licensing software I make for commercial use by sole proprietors and other small businesses for free, but charge truly offensive prices to entities that have “investors.” Like, Bob’s wood shop, where Bob, his son Rob, and Rob’s friend from high school Jimmy make butcher block counter tops? They can use my software for free. Microsoft? $600 trillion per seat per minute.

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

How exactly do you want it? Publicly traded companiee can’t use it? That would affect small companies too, but being publicly tradable is more likely to make an evil company in the end. Companies over a certain valuation? That would have problems with interest and private companies like valve not having to tell people their valuation. Mix of both is probably best.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would probably list out a series of symptoms of large businesses that don’t qualify for my non-corporate license.

  • The company itself, its owners, executives, board members, employees or any other persons associated with the company has spent more than $100 on lobbying since the invention of the written word. To include a middle manager that worked for the company for 2 weeks, quit, and then later went on to become involved in lobbying.
  • Any executive, board member, manager or such person currently or has ever had a contract that features any clauses that could be described as a "golden parachute."
  • The company has ever engaged in anti-union activity.
  • The company has ever outsourced jobs overseas because labor in developing countries is cheaper. Hiring outside one’s home country seeking better expertise ie “We contracted with a German machine shop because the sample work they turned in was of better quality” is okay; “We only have to pay Vietnamese teenagers 40 cents a day” isn’t.
  • The company publicly trades stock. That is to say random people mostly stock brokers and banks that don’t actually generate any value for society pays a little money and then expects dividents in perpetuity like ticks getting fat and bloated with the blood of higher life forms. These people may not financially benefit from my work more than I do.
  • The highest paid person who is in any way on the payroll of the company is paid more than 20 times the lowest paid employee.

That’s probably a good start.

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

That’s a pretty good list. I would say for 1 and 4 it should be in the past 50 years, to allow for companies to change. I would also add that anything the parent company or a company owned by the parent company that violates these rules also counts. Also, what is a “golden parachute”

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

A “golden parachute” is basically a clause in the contract of a CEO or other higher up where the company agrees to pay severance benefits. I don’t have a problem with severance pay in general but some of these things are basically "No matter how much I embezzle and defraud, no matter how many people I kill, no matter how much damage I do, I get tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, to the degree of actually incentivizing getting hired and fired as much as possible.

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

That’s pretty stupid.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Exactly.

phoenixz,

Now get rid of those silly back slashes in paths, use bash as a non mentally deficient shell, change that sad kernel to Linux 6.8 and up, change your laughably sad NTFS to something sane, anything, even ext3 would do but take ext4, get rid of your ridiculous drive letters and instead of copying KDE, why don’t you just switch to KDE on X or Wayland?

Do all that and make it open and free, like all other actual operating systems and we’ll talk

thedeadwalking4242,

I agree with everything but bash. Bash sucks I’m not going to lie, nearly anything else is better than bash

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

Zsh

allan,

fish

terminhell,

Sticks

SeekPie,

If you throw it hard enough

grubders,

what’s wrong with bash?

thedeadwalking4242,

It’s pretty archeic with it’s syntax. A lot of its features have come about through feature creep. I mean it does a good job but it’s just hard to work with and pretty cobbled together. It’s showing it’s age. If you’ve worked with any large bash scripts you’d understand how much of a pain it can be

brianary,

Windows increasingly allows either slash for paths.

e8d79,

I read about this a couple of days ago, apparently some support was there since DOS 2.0.

brianary,

That and .NET’s CLR, i think.

Steamymoomilk,

Microsoft linux when?

starman,
@starman@programming.dev avatar

Azure Linux exists

phoenixz,

As far as I know, Azure runs on Linux

ordellrb,

Some day, in cooperation with canonical and a nice KDE Theme

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

www.mslinux.org ;)

but seriously they should

the_beber,

Omg those quotes on the side lol

MajorHavoc,

Seriously. Yes.

If Microsoft doesn’t have a secret internal build of Windows that runs on a Linux Kernel, they’re out of their minds.

The Windows Kernel, as cool as it is, is 100% a cost center. If Microsoft switches (seemlessly) to a Linux kernel, no one would really notice. So at some point they should really switch it.

duck1e,
  1. they’ll have to opensource the code if they use linux kernel
  2. even with linux being vastly superior, it nice we have 3 major kernels with widely different approaches. it would be sad if either of these 3 dies out
MajorHavoc,

even with linux being vastly superior, it nice we have 3 major kernels with widely different approaches. it would be sad if either of these 3 dies out

Agreed. I do think at least a couple versions of the Windows NT kernel are going to live on forever in emulation, thanks to some pretty awesome games that require it.

joel_feila,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

Legal question. If Windows on the linux kernal needs to open source, but that does not apply to other software it runs, right? So could they close source their DE and charge for that, or charge for the windows store?

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

That is correct. Microsoft could simply charge for their closed-source desktop environment or their package manager or their software environment in general, but any modifications to the kernel would need to be free and open-source (though they could still charge money for it).

joel_feila,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

thanks for the answer.

_cnt0,
@_cnt0@sh.itjust.works avatar
  1. they’ll have to opensource the code if they use linux kernel

Only changes they would make to the kernel. There is no obligation to make an OS utilizing the linux kernel open source.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

An oversight by the developers. Had they licensed it under the GNU GPL v3, such a thing would not be possible.

ammonium,

No, the GPLv3 changes nothing in this regard.

droans,

If Microsoft switches (seemlessly) to a Linux kernel, no one would really notice.

Besides quite literally every piece of software breaking, sure.

spidermonkey23,

Gsudo existed before

Blackmist,

People are laughing, but it is annoying to open a Windows terminal, get a couple of steps into whatever you were doing, and find you need admin privileges for some bullshit.

Pressing up, home, "sudo " and enter is a lot quicker than opening a new command prompt in admin mode.

Evotech,

Where keys hope they support “sudo !!”

Atomic,

People are laughing because it took them more than 30 years to figure that out.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

you can emulate this currently with psutils until the official sudo for windows comes out :)

also thefuck is even funner :)

MetaCubed,

I unironically have thefuck installed in a few of my more frequently logged VMs. Incredibly convenient.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’ve been already using gsudo for that purpose

grubders,

sudo rm -rf C:/

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

actually, powershell also has aliases for unix-like commands, for examplerm. iirc you need rm -Force tho

asexualchangeling, (edited )

Sudo rm -Recursive -Force C:/ ?

InternetCitizen2,

The command has a smile C: so you know its safe.

JoMomma, (edited )

Are they actually naming the command “sudo” or is that just a comparison?

Edit: apparently yes, the audacity lol

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

Yes

Titou,

Looks like they didn’t even tried to hide it : learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sudo/

guiguinofake,

The sudo command offers a way to quickly elevate a command as administrator from your current unelevated command line context and is familiar to some users coming from other operating systems.

SpaceNoodle,

From any other operating system

guiguinofake,

TempleOS doesn’t have sudo, you just need to pray for a divine intervention.

sata_andagi,

You don’t need sudo, everything is already in Ring 0 as God intended.

FooBarrington,

Should have called it addo

fiddlestix,

Or ditto

lolcatnip,

What’s wrong with giving a command the same name as the equivalent command from other operating systems?

JoMomma,

That would be like calling the lynx command InternetExplorer

lolcatnip,

To me lynx is an application, whereas sudo is part of the OS, just like cp or cat. I know Linux sudo is maintained separately, but it’s part of what is expect in even the most minimal install of any Unix-like OS.

JoMomma,

Okay…

shasta,

This meme makes a lot more sense if you don’t cover up the faces

stebo02,

good thing we are all memelords who know this format by heart

ulterno,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I don’t, but I’ve seen the sauce and remember it.

Rozauhtuno,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Still Beans face is 99% of the reason for even using the meme. Without it the image just looks like two people sitting side by side instead of the cheating.

TheRedSpade,

I’m not familiar with the meme, and it’s still obvious one is copying the other. Although, it does make it look like Linux copying Windows rather than the path that reality took.

fruitycoder,

Yeah you have to already know that one person is obviously looking over at the others answers.

acockworkorange,

Ah, so that’s how it makes sense!

v4ld1z,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

Excuse me? This is Mr. Bean, not just some person

0x4E4F,

Actually, you do… does it have higher authority than TrustedInstaller or SYSTEM?

eatham,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

No, just admin, which we could already do by running CMD as admin.

0x4E4F,

Then it’s fucking useless and that IS NOT sudo.

800XL,

Reverse engineer denuvo and other kernel-level anti-cheat gaming software and use those methods to write a real sudo command.

0x4E4F,

It’s already been done, it’s called PowerRun.

sordum.org/…/powerrun-v1-6-run-with-highest-privi…

Nothing special about it, it just runs everything you load into it as TrustedInstaller or SYSTEM.

800XL,

Nice. Thanks for sharing this!

0x4E4F, (edited )

I am Jack’s extremely surprised brain 🤨… I share Windows Update Blocker by the same company (well… sorta… I don’t think they’re a real company) and I constantly get backlash “it’s not open source, god knows what it’s doing in the background!”, even though I have analyzed the binary (to an extent) and never noticed anything malicious about it (and I have shared this as well with the community). BUT, I share this (also closed source) and people thank me 🤨? WTF 🤨…

brianary,

Press WinKey+Ctrl+D, then WinKey+Ctrl+(←or→). Windows already has multiple desktops.

sbv,

I’ll take it.

Do they finally have an ls in the default path, or do I still need to alias that?

lolcatnip,

There’s an alias for it by default in PowerShell.

QuazarOmega,

Better install LSD:


<span style="color:#323232;">winget install --id=lsd-rs.lsd  -e
</span>
Hawk,
Evil_Shrubbery,

Write FOSS next, quickly!!!

QuazarOmega,

They’re onto it already with a few apps surprisingly…

Windows when?

Evil_Shrubbery,

Yeah, I know, but like imagine they pivot their full business model to foss.

datavoid,

Lol

Honytawk,

FOSS!

Was that quickly enough?–

Evil_Shrubbery,

Thank you, now we just wait …

Facebones,

FOSS

redcalcium,

Step 1: Release cool FOSS apps and gain popularity.

Step 2: The apps are still FOSS, but now most of the cool features are actually proprietary and running on the company’s servers. <— we’re here right now

Step 3 (soon-ish): “Since our customers love our proprietary features so much, we’re no longer maintaining our FOSS version. Subscribe to our new pro subscription to continue accessing the apps”

possiblylinux127,

Honestly MS doesn’t even both hiding the fact that they want to you to use Windows so they can sell you subscriptions to proprietary software and the cloud.

possiblylinux127, (edited )

I can’t wait for their version to be totally broken compared to normal sudo on windows

Nomecks,

Where?

possiblylinux127,

Where is what?

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

They made fun of your grammar

possiblylinux127,

Thanks, I corrected my mistake

Magister,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

I discovered winget (command in PowerShell) a couple of years ago, it’s pretty cool

redcalcium, (edited )

Winget actually has quite a shitty history and you could put WinGet into the meme above. It’s basically a clone of an open source package manager called AppGet. Microsoft reached out to AppGet developer to hire him and make the tool official, but somewhere in the process ended up ghosting him for 6 months before suddenly releasing WinGet, copying most of AppGet features.

If we’re going to speculate why Microsoft did him dirty, the AppGet dev also made Sonarr (a popular “arr” tools) and someone at Microsoft probably killed the deal because they don’t want to be seen hiring the dev of a popular tool in piracy community.

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