Seems clear to me that Facebook should have no other interest in this other than ultimately making money. Thus it is antithetical to Lemmy and the fediverse in general, and should be treated as such.
I don't think they're there to make money. They want to take over the place and then absorb it in other to eliminate competition. Which is what they've always been doing.
While I’m sure that one-click hosting for fediverse instances exist, I’d imagine most instance admins would be using general dedicated server hosting. It would allow for finer control of the backend.
My main mastodon uses one of the hosted services, which I’m totally fine with. Moderating a community is hard enough without adding extra sysadmin work on top, and I’m happy to donate towards the running costs whatever way the admins choose is best to run it.
The fact that Threads won't launch in Europe because it's literally illegal there tells me everything I need to know about this platform. Do not trust Facebook, do not federate with Facebook.
Just a heads up from a desktop user (E: on kbin) - they don't show up as emojis alongside the text like normal one would but rather as a link to an image (which you can click to open in-comment).
Yeah, I imagine it's just one of those things that'll get ironed out with time, and they're still visible, so that's good! Just thought I'd let you (and others who use them) know that not everyone sees them as you intended them to be seen (I assume!) 😊
You can block an entire domain, but the functionality is currently broken. It will hide entire comment sections from you if you do it.
However, based on recent posts at /m/kbinmeta it sounds like updates should start rolling out before too much longer, and I expect that will eventually be one of the the things that gets fixed.
Wouldn't surprise me given the overlap in their... let's call it thinking. Still, there's nothing to suggest that e.g. Ernest from kbin is a tankie dipshit, so it's still weird we also have to deal with it.
Instance blocking, in the absence of people doing their job, needs to arrive last month.
I haven’t noticed much in the way of bigots from kbin, probably in part to the mods :P. Honestly, lemmy.world seems to have waaaay more issues with moderation; like, it seems that the worst of reddit moved there. I’ve literally seen people there throwing around slurs to insult each other and it feels like that’s just to be expected as it doesn’t really get moderated. Kbin.social is way more tame than lemmy.world imo, and if it were to be de-federated, then lemmy.world would have been ages before that.
and if it were to be de-federated, then lemmy.world would have been ages before that.
.world gets the “untouchably large instance” pass that mastodon.social and it’s ilk always gets, especially amplified by the community oriented structure of Lemmy.
This is in no way a dig to the admins here btw. Defederating from .world would cut off a LOT of otherwise alright communities. That said with their recent statement of “we’re not big compared to Mastodon so we’re not doing anything bad by keeping registrations open!! We want more 🚀 users 🚀” seemed so disingenuous that I myself am considering just outright filtering them out on my own end. And if the Beehaw defederation didn’t bring any sense into them then Blahaj defederating won’t do much either.
Honestly we’re lucky the admin doesn’t seem to be namesearching and replyguying like some others (ahem universeodon ahem)
I can see one usecase of corporate servers in the fediverse:
Twitter has various official corporate accounts and also accounts that pretend to be official corporate accounts but aren't. Twitter's solution to that was verification. In the fediverse, a company like Roblox could spin up mastodon.roblox.com with only one or two accounts that would act as the equivalent of a verified Twitter account by virtue of their home server being a roblox domain.a
They really think we never learned from google+ or WhatsApp? They implement OpenSource, greedy milk it to the ground and close it or set their propetary code over it. Nothing has changed, we should be worried about activitypub since the greedy five are interested in it.
I didn’t realize either until I wandered into one of their posts. I am newer to lemme and I thought the general vibe was “leftist=good, atrocities=bad” but these dudes were all about Russia being good dudes and Ukraine being bad. I asked what was up with that and everyone shit on me. I even got some NK style propaganda thrown at me. Apparently NK is a lovely place to live and they are just being sanctioned to death bc they resist American imperialism.
It really threw me for a loop. I spent some time trying to figure out wtf a hexbear is. The general consensus is that they’re tankies and that’s bad.
I think the real problem is more simple, there is no trust in the media anymore, and for good reason, and as a result, peoples beliefs are guided less and less by facts and more by their own confirmation biases.
And this is a problem on both sides of every political issue these days, I don’t trust any sources anymore, I live in the US and the only way I know china and NK are evil is because they are authoritarian, so they are bad by default, the history of the US is so bad that I obviously can’t trust western media, some might not realize eastern media is just as bad after hearing european atrocities.
Maybe that’s a problem but personally I disable vote scores and read all the comments anyway so I don’t care that much what people vote. I don’t think my instance is going to defederate hexbear so I’m looking forward to it.
A lot of people do view content with votes, which if people see how the community reacts to certain kinds of posts and comments via votes then discussions would still be steered at large in a community
That is a valid concern. I don’t like votes and don’t think people should pay attention to them though, as they are mainly just a way of propagating the kind of unaccountable groupthink hexbear exemplifies. Anyway I don’t have a problem with your instance defederating with them, good luck with it
Reminds me of the often-told story of the punk bar bartender and nazis
based on @iamragesparkle;s tweets
I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, oh,ok and he continues.
"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.
Great. I came here specifically to escape big tech bullshit, and now they're coming to infect the fediverse. At this point, I don't care. Once they get a foot in the door, it's already too late. I'll just leave if I have to, I haven't had any social media in years at this point anyway. I can't envision a world where Meta doesn't use covert tactics to gain a stranglehold over this place.
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