Honestly I believe this to be a way more important issue to discuss than the whole capitalism vs socialism vs communism vs whatever else argument. If your ideas can easily be perverted by corruption then it won’t work.
I have some ideas but I’m just some idiot on the internet. I think you need checks and balances. Have at least two groups with similar power at odds with one another. One example is corporation vs government. But I don’t think just 2 groups is good enough. Ideally you probably want 3 groups at the very least. I know many governments around the world already uses this sort of structure internally (eg different branches of government), but I don’t think these solutions take into account the existence of mega corporations that can act across country borders.
Serious question. Is it possible to do this with very large populations? It seems like it might get inherently more complicated with several tiers of government (federal, state, county, city, etc…)
It definitely feels like Dunbar’s Number is a gate to keep this from being effective in large communities.
If we can’t view more than a finite amount of other humans as being “real,” how do we begin to get massively large groups of humans to care for one another? This is a question I don’t have the answer to.
What a system is capable of doing initially for a lucky fraction of the populace and where its inevitable and terrible end leads for the vast majority are two entirely different things.
😖🤚 Capitalism: Liftes over a billion of the world's poorest people out of extreme poverty in the last century, but also Jeff Bezos' yacht is like, really big though.
😉👉 Socialism: Impoverished their societies so thoroughly that they starved to death (or straight-up murdered) over 100 million of their own citizens in the last century, but you gotta admit Stalin and Pol Pot had much more reasonably-sized yachts.
The problem there is the same as that of idealised communism, you're relying on humans to do what they typically don't do. Humans will take for themselves at the cost of communities if they feel they can get away with it, including the ones in government.
Capitalism is literally predicated on “you should take for yourself at any cost” and does everything in its power to limit anything that might bring consequences.
except of course no government can regulate a Freed market.
If we truly Freed the market of government controls the workers could ownership of the fruits of their labor and the laws of supply and demand would regulate the market naturally
I came here to escape from the far left and their control over Reddit. The fediverse(kbin in my case) allows me to block any political shit, which makes my browsing experience far nicer.
I'm a leftist and I disagree. Reality is politically neutral. I happen to believe unregulated a Freed market would result in a leftist market but we can't know that for sure until such time the revolution comes.
I'm a big fan of socialism. In particular I love the way it starved 100 million socialists to death. All those "capitalist wars" put up rookie numbers at killing socialists compared to the might of simply not feeding them 💪
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