trippingonthewire,

Yk, I’ll play devils advocate and say that I see the good in this. People with disabilities will finally be able to do things.

But, governments will definitely love this. And the proprietary technology would definitely be spying on people, no surprise there.

I’m really afraid it could become a mandate to get in the future (gotta learn how to survive in the woods.)

So overall, it has good potential but would definitely be used for harm. I think it’s a net negative.

ilinamorato,

I remember reading an article just a few weeks ago about a company that made a combination prosthetic/implant for blind people to be able to see in the…early 2000s, I think? It was an early technology, low-rez, but somewhat miraculous for some.

And then the company went out of business.

As the implants began to wear out, or the software developed bugs, or the patients’ needs changed, things fell apart. They lost their vision and nobody could help them because the hardware and software were proprietary.

Now Elon Musk—with his reputation for quality control and following through with ideas and open source—wants to put things in our brains. Backed by the full faith and credit of Elon Musk.

One day he’s going to push down an update that makes everybody with a Neuralink stop and say “hehe butts” in a funny voice, and the tech bros will say “lol great meme Elon” even though a dozen of them got hit by a car because they were forced to stop while they walked across the street, and thirty of them lost their jobs because they said “hehe butts” to their managers, and one of them was a soldier who said “hehe butts” in an active warzone and blew the whole squad’s cover.

I can’t believe anyone is honestly entertaining this.

CallumWells,

Deus Ex, here we come!

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Actually, plenty of right-wingers, shitlibs and actual left wingers are against the microchip thing Elon is doing.

unoriginalsin,

Doesn’t mean plenty of them don’t know or care that he’s trying to put microchips in people’s brains.

EmperorHenry, (edited )
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Maybe, but as I always say, today’s “crazy conspiracy theory” is tomorrow’s news.

so-called crazy people were talking about how the ultra wealthy were going to use microchips in our brains to control us…now the ultra wealthy are in the first stage of that.

Always ask yourself, “what does this person have to gain from doing that?” if corporations can beam ads into our heads…that’s bad. Handing over your biometrics to amazon so you can buy groceries without cash or credit cards is bad. having all your identity information associated with a QR code that leads to a hackable database controlled by big tech it’s bad.

Cashless economies are bad, city-wide surveillance with facial recognition is bad…and the only reason no one is freaking out and putting these dystopian oligarchs in stockades is because no one knows and no one knows because fewer and fewer people are asking questions about things. “just asking questions!” right? it’s bad to ask questions, “do your own research!” It’s bad to do research now.

If no one ever thinks about anything and just continues going about their routines like good little worker drones then there’s no worries about not having any freedom, about not even having privacy in your own mind. “I’ve got nothing to hide, so I’m okay with my entire life being visible to the authorities”

unoriginalsin,

Maybe, but as I always say, today’s “crazy conspiracy theory” is tomorrow’s news.

Only if you’re inclined to believe the conspiracy theory first.

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Alex Jones, even though he’s probably crazy, has a better track record than msnbc, foxnews and cnn.

a lot of the shit he said 13 years ago turned out to be right.

voidMainVoid,

a lot of the shit he said 13 years ago turned out to be right.

Like what?

Listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast which critiques Alex Jones. He’s wrong a lot.

Gaspar,
@Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

BECAUSE👏EVERY👏ACCUSATION👏IS👏A👏CONFESSION👏

butsbutts,

mm cool can’t wait to have brain surgery every 2 years when new version comes out

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why you do the FOSS version, it’s designed to be easily upgradable and customizable to all your needs, and even on old hardware will still accept updates.

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

I cant tell if you are so stupid to think conspiracists are ok with neurolink or if you are just pretending to “own the right”.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Dream Scenario IRL except it’s Musk

AVincentInSpace,

The difference is that it’s consensual, you libtard.

Now try not to think about those monkeys we’re testing the product on and whether it was consensual for them.

^/s^ ^if^ ^it^ ^wasn’t^ ^obvious^

Sharpiemarker,

Just because you have someone’s consent, doesn’t make whatever you do to them legal.

For example, you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent.

Frankly, Elon has killed enough animals in this endeavor that it’s unconscionable to allow him to test it on people. It’s only going to end poorly.

Rediphile,

you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent

I agree this is the current law. But I certainly don’t agree with this law. Do you?

I feel people should absolutely be allowed to consent to death, or potential death. And I mean, we already can in various other contexts like skiing in avalanche terrain, ordering too many big macs, or medically assisted suicide to prevent suffering from incurable conditions (at least in a few civilized places).

BCsven,

Yeah we have that in Canada, you can choose to end it with doctor help via the MAID program. Lets people die with dignity.

Sharpiemarker,

You’re talking to someone whose wife died 4 months ago (at 34 years old), from one of those incurable conditions. I’ll let you guess how I feel about allowing people to end their life on their terms.

Rediphile,

I’m confident you strongly support allowing it as I have never met someone who witnessed a loved one suffer like that and does not support lessening their suffering.

So since you support allowing people to end their own lives in that context, you understand that people can indeed consent to death. So perhaps consenting to death should be permitted in other contexts too. That’s the only point I was making.

Johanno,

I understand your point. I think people should be able to consent to that, but how do you assure they don’t do this because they get forced to agree?

Rediphile,

The same way we assure people consenting to anything at all are not being forced to. We try our best basically. And sometimes we’ll probably get it wrong and need to improve. I’m completely ok with that when the alternative is guaranteed preventable suffering. Just like I’m ok with people using power of attorney to protect the finances of people with dementia, even if sometimes it gets misapplied.

cameron_vale,

You are free to get the chip or not.

But if you refuse the chip then you might lose your job, or your ability to shop.

It will be the new cellphone.

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The first one might suck but can be solved by either working under the table or with underhanded tactics, not super easy but doable.

For the second one, it’s much easier, !shoplifting can help you.

Sweetpeaches69,

I welcome these regressive assholes getting a chip in their brain that has been shown to fry the brains of monkeys if they want it. Maybe we should even be campaigning for it in the South.

rumpelstiltskin,

Ah of course. The old: “if we do it to people we dislike, it isn’t a crime” angle. Mixed in with generalizations like “people from the South”.

Kindness matters, especially when it seems like there’s nothing to be gained from it.

Sweetpeaches69,

Next time I’ll add the /j

MrScottyTay,

What’s /j, not heard of that one

Sweetpeaches69,

/just completely serious

I’m kidding. /j is joke

MeowZedong,
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Still won’t make it funny.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

Based

cameron_vale,

why do you hate science?

VarthDader,

what does the chip do?

Viking_Hippie,

It fries the brains of monkeys and likely humans too.

cameron_vale,

It’s basically a cellphone in your head. So convenient.

zcubed,

Probably already been hacked. We just haven’t heard about it yet.

meliaesc,

No need to hack when the fatality rate in primates is already so high.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

When the conspiracy theory said Gates was doing it, it was the end of days.

Now that musk is doing it, it’ll be sliced bread 2.0.

PsychedSy,

Nah. These people balk at me wanting an rfid emu chip in my hand.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I will one up you. I’d like to see something that shows body temperature, 02 saturation, and heart rate. Needs to be about the size of a grain of race and implanted in us right after birth. DING, your child has a fever. DING, your child is suffocating in their sleep.

PsychedSy,

I mean, yeah. My rid/nfc emu chips are passive, tho.

cameron_vale,

It will be the new vax. Anybody who doesn’t get it will be guilty of antisocial behavior and endangering the health of their fellow citizens.

In fact if you got the vax then it’s only logical that you get the chip too.

AVincentInSpace,

I want you to think long and hard between the differences between not getting protection against a deadly, highly transmissible disease and not getting an iPhone implanted in your skull.

I’ll give you a hint. Only one of them actually endangers lives.

cameron_vale,

Both are the clear choice for every obedient, right-thinking, socially-conscious citizen. Smart guys like you and me. It’s a foregone conclusion.

AVincentInSpace,

Do you understand how disease spreads?

Do you know that if you decide you’re too cool for a jab that has been tested on literal billions of people and proven safe and effective in over 99.9% of cases, and end up getting COVID, not only could you be stuck with “long COVID” complications for life but you could also spread the disease to someone immunocompromised who isn’t eligible for the shot and will almost certainly die from it?

cameron_vale,

That’s nice. Did you copy paste it or do you have it memorized?

AVincentInSpace,

I could dig up several reputable sources to corroborate everything I just said, but first I’d like to ask if you have even one that calls it into question.

Give me one reason for not getting the shot besides opposing everything the government does because you want to feel like a special boy.

cameron_vale,

Yes yes. So virtuous and obedient.

But consider this. Take all your well-worn arguments for the vax and every time you see “vax”, replace that with “brainchip”.

You see how it works.

TheJims,

In other news Musk opens pizzeria in Washington DC

Viking_Hippie,

Called Meteor Table Tennis. This one WILL have a basement 😬

doctorn,
@doctorn@r.nf avatar

All conspiracies come true if you spread them and wait long enough… Eventually some crazy rich guy will have heard it and make it real. 😅

Humans are weird. 😅

Jaded, (edited )

This is some really cool tech and I’m happy the trials are starting. It’s a shame having it attached to Elon is ruining the perception of it, I’m hoping other companies get in the game soon.

Komatik,

Your nuts… Monkeys have gone crazy from it and you want it in your brain? We can’t even effectively secure a computer without it getting hacked. And you want the only thing that makes you you hackable ?

To each their own but no way I get something put in my head. Forget hacking what if it malfunctions… I’ve seen enough Tesla cars crashing

Jaded,

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not volunteering but eventually it will be safe.

Theres definitely barriers to overcome but to go with your analogy, I drive a car everyday on the highway even though a malfunction or even just an other user being stupid can easily lead to my death. That’s just to get to work or see friends. I could imagine myself braving worse to get to use full dive vr.

But you couldn’t pay me to get into one of those death traps when cars were first invented though. I’m eager but I will definitely wait a while before jumping in.

AliOski,

It could help disabled people move… Other than that, I’m unsure about it’s purposes…

Jaded,

It can eventually help disabled people move, see, hear and talk.

For everyday people, this will replace phones and computers completely. We will be able to project a private screen on any surface, even mid air. We will be thinking the words instead of saying them during phonecalls.

Movies and games are going to be so immersive it’s probably going to cause some serious societal issues. Larping is going to become big I’m guessing.

That’s just the surface stuff that’s easy to think of. It gets even nuttier if you think about recording and downloading dreams and memories, some of the really sci Fi stuff. The possibilities are literally endless. Obviously though, there’s a way to go, it’s still in its infancy.

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