dejected_warp_core,

What frustrates me the most about this is that if we promote one commercial solution to the top of the heap, destroying all others, we still lose.

hoya,

You can just use Matrix with bridges

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

You got a guide? I have not been able to setup the thing

TarantulaFudge,
Draedron,

So glad everyone here just uses whatsapp. Yeah yeah, meta sucks and privacy is bad. I prefer the ease of use and being able to communicate though.

darkphotonstudio, (edited )

Let’s just go back to IRC and XMPP. The modern “chat” landscape is dismal.

Zacryon,

Don’t have friends. Problem solved.

M500,

I have a bunch of chat apps. I live in a country that uses a mix of messenger, telegram, viber, and whatsapp. Although it is mostly messenger.

PeriodicallyPedantic,

I really miss how windows phone allowed other chat services to plug in to it, so that you could have a single chat app for all your contacts, but open the individual apps for advanced features.

kuneho,
@kuneho@lemmy.world avatar

Same went for Blackberry 10 and its Hub

nick,

Just stop using the spyware ones?

mac, (edited )
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

That leaves you with element, signal and telegram?

LWD,

Oh, where to begin. Telegram is wild. It may not be spyware in the traditional sense, but they’ve already handed over data to the Indian government, left a telephone number scraping vulnerability open for the Iranian government, and gotten caught with “the most backdoor looking bug” with their unwisely handmade encryption algorithm.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Okay just element and signal then?

LWD,

In the meme, yeah. There are others though:

www.privacyguides.org/…/real-time-communication/

JohnDoe,

SimpleX looks neat.

nick, (edited )

Telegram’s backend is proprietary software and they (very similarly to Discord for example) can just decide to read your chats whenever they want. It’s even worse then WhatsApp in this sense (at least as long as you trust Facebook that they actually encrypt your chats, again, there is no way to know if it’s proprietary software).

Zacryon,

And yet no one was able to crack it.

TarantulaFudge,

Telegram and signal are both central points of failure. Signal can be used with other servers, but the server address is hard coded in the app, so you have to deploy your own app. Matrix servers can keep a channel going even if the channel’s home server goes down. The more home servers there are, the more mirrors of public channels there will be.

Roccobot,
@Roccobot@lemmy.world avatar

What’s the app in the middle? Never seen that logo

r0bi,

Thats the app Element for the Matrix network

Roccobot,
@Roccobot@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. Today I learned: a network called Matrix exists IRL

koncertejo,

Element, one of the few (only?) entirely open source, encrypted, and federated chat platforms out there.

repungnant_canary,

And if you have two phone numbers which you want to use for WhatsApp then you need to clone the damn app because they can’t even make such basic functionality

LWD,

Shelter is a nice FOSS app.

Samsungs also have Secure Folder…

CertifiedBlackGuy,

Samsung actually allows app cloning for multiple profiles without using secure folder.

I’m not sure if it’s a list of supported apps or any as I don’t use the feature

meliaesc,

It’s called “dual messenger” if anyone is curious. Works well for using both my US & international numbers.

LWD,

Oh yeah, you can do that too. I just never have it for apps I want to clone.

JohnDoe,

I have a newer Redmi Phone and I can install an app at least twice. There’s the ‘second space’ as well which is like having a cordoned off user. I use a different fingerprint or PIN and it takes me there.

AnnaFrankfurter,

Yeah yeah we got it you have multiple friends quit bragging about it now

sag,
Classy,

No SimpleX??

myusernameis,

Random hot take, I’m at least grateful that my wife and I use an app that none of our friends use. Removes the “oh shit did I send that to the wrong person” panic.

gandalf_der_12te,

Remember E-Mail, everyone?

tsugu,
@tsugu@slrpnk.net avatar

A lot of people around me are genuinely confused when your email is not firstname.lastname@gmail.com, as they mostly just use it for confirming logins. That’s how bad the situation is.

neutron, (edited )

Having an untraditional gTLD like .xyz makes many confused as well, especially those not in IT.

PeriodicallyPedantic,

I recently started using a + in my email address to make use-specific aliases, so I can more easily filter content from them or see if they’re leaking my email.

I signed up for a rewards program in person the other day and the strange look I got:

Do you have an account with us?

Idk

I can look up your email

Ok, it’s foo@bar.com

I don’t see it, would you like to make an account?

Yes, but instead of that email, make it foo+yourcompany@bar.com

Uhhhhh… Ok…

Like “you don’t have an account but you have an email specifically for our business? Sus AF”

EvolvedTurtle,

Damn I’m over here with like 4 emails

Personal / gaming, the professional one with my name, my collage one, and the new one I made to make it harder to dox me

ohlaph,

Never heard of her.

gandalf_der_12te,

she’s nice. You should check her out

dog_,

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