The Katyn massacre was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD in April and May 1940. Wikipedia
Polish IPN has much more reports and documents proving that the NKWD were the ones who commited the Katyn massacre. If you want, you can read both the transcriptions and original scans on their website.
Poland was literally shifted to the West to satisfy Stalin’s fetish for buffer zones. They were betrayed by the USSR too during the Warsaw Uprising and later abandoned by the West after the War. If I am a Polish citizen, I would be digging up gramp’s Mosin from the backyard now.
I don’t get this, there’s an effective definition you can use, socialist or marxist-leninist, but you insist on calling them communist which they didn’t even call themselves
North Korea’s giant-air-quotes “democracy” is different from every other actual democracy.
“Communist” government are all the failure modes y’all insist don’t count. Every single one.
You don’t have to stop advocating for the utopian end goal, to acknowledge what’s happened, in practice, in the name of that pursuit. Unless you want to grant to libertarian jerkoffs that without total deregulation for perfectly informed consumers, “capitalism has never been tried.”
That’s because north Korea is a monarchy and not a democracy.
So far pretty much every government calling itself communist has been a dictatorship with state capitalism. None of them have even tried giving power to the workers which is like the core point. Vanguard parties are just a means to power for yourself draped in communist aesthetics. Nazies did that too, doesn’t make them communist.
Libertarian means something else outside the US just FYI. True free market capitalism would exist just long enough for a corporation to seize enough power that it would be the defacto government so in that sense yea, pure capitalism hasn’t been tried and really shouldn’t.
True free market capitalism would exist just long enough for a corporation to seize enough power that it would be the defacto government so in that sense yea, pure capitalism hasn’t been tried and really shouldn’t.
Yeah, if an approach predictably leads to collapse, it doesn’t really matter what the goal is. Whether the goal has “been tried” doesn’t change what would happen if people tried to try.
And I have never wanted to put a dictator in charge who really likes the colour red. What I advocate is worker control over the means of production, think coop businesses.
Which is totally different from what prior revolutionaries advocated. Apparently. What they wanted was communism… and what they were attempting to get was communism… but none of that counts because it went wrong somehow.
Fascists adopt whatever labels sound good. That’s not the same thing as people honestly trying and things going wrong.
Are you saying every single communist movement that’s ever risen to national influence was a false flag operation? That not just once or twice, but every time a leftist movement successfully established power, they were either complete frauds like the god-damned Nazis, or so compromised from within that they might as well be?
Because that would still reflect terribly on any movement saying the same things as those efforts.
My guy. I’m the one saying efforts toward communism have a terrible track record of entering a failure mode, to the point it makes perfect sense for “communist countries” to be a label for the dictatorships resulting from let’s-do-a-communism-whoops revolutions. I get to say ‘if you want that goal don’t take that path.’ But what you’re describing sounds like condemning anyone with that goal, since it seems there are zero examples of anyone getting anywhere.
Had no clue looking at the name of a country or the party in charge was a substitute for politically analyzing a country. Also, that party literally said the Soviet Union hadn’t reached communism which is obvious if you know what communism is supposed to mean.
The Soviets were the boogeyman to the Germans aswel. Taking people in the dead of night, evicting farmers from there land and replacing them with communist sympathizers, stealing, all that nasty stuff.
I remember reading a diary of a German officer who discribed the Soviets during the first few years of the occupation as “rag tag”, no standard dress code or discipline which is pretty funny given current events
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