bus_go_fast,

I am gonna downvote the Fascist Business Network.

Heresy_generator,
Heresy_generator avatar

But they only have the most business-relevant of all business news! Like this crime where the accused is not white! Very businessy; much finance.

h0usewaifu,
@h0usewaifu@lemmy.world avatar

Non-Fox link: www.usatoday.com/story/news/…/71478913007/

What kind of a ghoul do you have to be to commit arson and attempt murder (of two adults and six children) over unpaid rent? Like, you’re a landlord. Get used to rent issues or get a real job.

RichCaffeineFlavor,

The elemental core of fascism is the belief that you deserve the benefits of other people’s suffering. You haven’t experienced rage until you’ve watched someone get slapped in the face by someone they deep down believe is inferior to them.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

Arson & murder aside, there’s a housing crisis.

You can own property, and be homeless and broke.

Examples:

But to be clear: fuck this guy.

Just also fuck your “get used to theft with no recourse” attitude. We need places to rent - not everyone wants to own a house. You can argue the price of rent, but don’t pretend it isn’t a real job. They are providing a valuable service, and have expenses to do so. I’m in a city with a huge housing shortage - people are lined up trying to rent places. People are auction-like bidding against other potential tenants (technically illegal) to pay more rent in order to get a place to sleep. We need more rentals. If it’s not worth it, they’ll sell. Which means one less house for rent, making the problem worse.

And again: fuck this arsonist murderous ahole.

Bremmy,

Fox? No thanks

Draedron,

If fox news is the only source we should just ignore it

Salamendacious,
@Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

Personally I like reading from as many sources as possible. I like to compare biases. You’re obviously free to ignore whatever you want.

expr,

That’s fine, but fox news isn’t a source.

Salamendacious,
@Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

I read Fox along with lots of other sources and I’ve found that by and large when it isn’t political Fox isn’t as horrible as you’re making it out.

Burn_The_Right,

This never happened. Or did it?

Fox News has testified in court multiple times that their “news” is not fact-based and that no reasonable person could confuse their stories as factual. So… It’s a fairly safe bet that this story is bullshit, based on Fox News’ own sworn statements.

Fuck these Fox News affiliate links.

Hildegarde,

No.

Companies don’t make sweeping, damaging admissions in a court defense. No broadcaster would admit that all of their news is not news. They only make statements about the facts at issue. It’s a bad idea to admit anything beyond the scope of the case at issue. Anyone saying that a news agency admits they aren’t news has a bridge to sell.

The arguments made by fox were that their pundit, Tucker Carlson made exaggerated statements during his punditry show. And the courts agreed that those false statements were not defamatory, because reasonable viewers would not expect a political pundit to be factual, because dishonest exaggeration is what political punditry is.

MSNBC made very similar arguments in court. Rachel Maddow got a lawsuit from One America News Network dismissed under very similar circumstances. You don’t get factual information from pundits. Doesn’t matter what political leanings the network claims to have. Pundits are all liars, that’s what they do.

Fox does awful journalism. You probably shouldn’t trust their reporting, but not because they admitted in court that their pundit did punditry before they fired him.

Pretzilla,

Oof. Maddow and Faux are NOT two sides of the same coin.

Hildegarde,

They are both political pundits who work(ed) for advertisement funded national broadcasters. They both made statements in court that they do not make factual statements as a defense against defamation cases, both of which were winning arguments.

They have a lot more in common than you would think.

Fox and CNN and MSNBC will claim to be left or right wing. They do so to cater to specific audiences. But they are all funded by largely the same advertisers which have the same interests. Don’t trust any enormous media corporation.

SoleInvictus,
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

You have accurately communicated the facts and I believe adherence to truth, even if you don’t like that truth, is the only way to be better than the typical OANN and Fox News crowd. I even found a corroborating article for the skeptics.

thedispatch.com/…/fact-checking-a-claim-that-fox-…

When people disparage facts they don’t like based simply on the fact they don’t like them, they’re furthering a post-truth society.

x4740N,

Eww fox news

bus_go_fast,

Also known as the Fascist News Network.

Kevnyon,
Kevnyon avatar

He was right to do it, fuck squatters.

Eezyville,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

While I can try and understand your position. These people basically stole his investment. Arson and murder is not the correct solution.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

You mean he threatened to withhold shelter if they didn't pay him protection money?

That sounds fucked of him.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Evicting them is the correct solution, and if that is too hard for him then maybe he is in the wrong business.

burntbutterbiscuits,

Being a landlord is risky I suppose. You shouldn’t invest if you can’t take the loss.

halloween_spookster,

You’re advocating for murder. Consider your choices

Tenthrow,
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

He tried to kill 6 children. What is wrong with you?

Kevnyon,
Kevnyon avatar

And they had not paid rent since January? I will never understand the notion that some people, regular people, not billionaires, deserve to lose income while some people deserve free housing because of "family". While he obviously went a bit overboard, I can't imagine there wasn't some desperation in his actions because he had not been paid rent for months on end.

Honytawk,

If they kept their rent the same, they would still get paid.

But they were greedy, so they didn’t.

They only have themselves to blame.

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  • FireTower,
    @FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

    Dude arson endangers not just the lives of the residents of that building but those of adjacent buildings. Fires spread. Even if you could justify the death of the squatters arson is far from any justifiable mechanism.

    jopepa,

    Everyone’s trying to explain the value of human life to this comment but you’re explaining the hazard to other objects. You’re reaching people where they are; I think just might change a heart tonight. Good job.

    Tat,

    Dude its all connected regardless

    FireTower,
    @FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

    I was more going for the hazard to neighbors. But any port in a storm I suppose.

    Transform2942,

    Found the landlord / bootlicker

    s1ndr0m3,

    Fuck landlords. They are leaches.

    dlpkl,

    And what does that make literal squatters lmfao

    octoperson,

    Squatters add value to otherwise unproductive property. Squatters are wealth creators.

    HauntedCupcake,

    It makes them impoverished and desperate in an economy that increasingly funnels wealth towards the idle rich

    dlpkl,

    Whew jumping to conclusions much? Did you imagine all that just to justify theft?

    orrk,

    considering the rest of you guys are trying to justify murder, I think he has to do way less conclusion jumping

    dlpkl,

    The rest of who? Where did I even start to sympathize with the guy in the article. Y’all are streeeeetching

    orrk,

    your the guy trying to defend the person who is of the opinion that squatters are best dealt with by fire, if they stop providing rent income to the privileged

    CommanderCloon,

    I don’t care if someone leeches off a leech.

    dlpkl,

    So it makes them a leach. Got it lol

    Honytawk,

    Yes, just like every single landlord in existence.

    Unaware7013,

    Hot take: people are more important than property, and anyone who thinks not paying for a basic human right is worth murdering over is a piece of shit who should be shunned from society.

    golfer1614,

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  • candyman337,

    Are you saying that if you can’t make money you deserve to be homeless?

    Gnugit,

    I think they are trying to say “there is no such thing as a free lunch”

    candyman337,

    That doesn’t warrant committing arson

    thefartographer,

    OH MY GOD WE’RE HAVING A FIRE!!!

    sale.

    Gnugit,

    Point out an obvious lack of basic English comprehension and suddenly I have 15 down votes and some low IQ trying to insinuate I’m condoning arson…

    golfer1614,

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  • Duranie,

    I work in hospice and see all kinds of family situations. I see elderly parents that have to move in with their children because of medical and end of life care expenses, children who have to make decisions that will impact their current and future financial stability to care for their parents, and parents who’s children either can’t or won’t blow their futures to put the parents in a safe, clean facility.

    While I don’t wish any of those circumstances on you, I might imagine that should you find yourself there one day you might appreciate some compassion or empathy that you’re denying others.

    Mac,

    You are a sick. Seek help.

    candyman337,

    No that doesn’t warrant arson you psychopath

    Unaware7013,

    So if you don't have money, you should just die?

    golfer1614,

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  • Unaware7013,

    I'm not sure what you're saying, considering the person I replied to said the dude was right to try to murder a bunch of people, and I said property is not worth more than human life. I never said the world was free to live in, just that people who think that this behavior is acceptable over something that should be a human right are pieces of shit.

    What are you trying to say?

    Neato,
    Neato avatar

    It's not but it should be because it can be.

    agent_flounder,
    @agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

    Pretty sure it used to be, too.

    thefartographer,

    Hotter take: Anyone should be allowed to set things they own on fire*. Being a landlord is thing here that should be outlawed.

    *Property fires cannot contain other people or their possessions. Fire must not spread to other properties.

    nutsack,

    that’s murder. you are advocating murder.

    thefartographer,

    No one reads the fine print anymore. Or apparently past the first sentence

    Number1SummerJam,
    @Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world avatar

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  • jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Easier to deal with insurance than evict? 🤔

    GlitterInfection,

    The prison sentence might even be shorter than the eviction process would have been…

    FuglyDuck,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Insurance won’t pay- trying to claim your house that you intentionally torched is insurance fraud.

    jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    I think the idea was he thought he could get away with the arson, or that he could blame the tenants for the arson.

    FerolisD,

    Real Mensa candidate here.

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