TheFlopster,
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Nance’s prior arrest records indicated that he was previously arrested for aggravated discharge of a weapon involving a woman.

It needs to be specified if you discharge your weapon and a woman is involved? Because that’s…a different charge than if a man is involved? What if it’s a woman discharging the weapon? Still phrased like this? What a weird thing to write.

maness300,

They probably would have specified if it was a man, too.

You’re making up things to be upset about.

AbidanYre,

It implies a domestic dispute rather than, like a bar fight.

ExLisper,

Right, because bars are man only.

AbidanYre,

It must be exhausting to be constantly on the lookout for things to be offended by.

ExLisper,

Nah, at some point it’s pretty much automatic. I don’t even have to think about it. It’s like ‘yo mama’ jokes, you just see them.

ArcaneSlime,

And only men can perpetuate domestic violence of course, it’s 1946!

eatthecake,

No. They are saying that he was previoualy arrested for aggravated discharge of a weapon and that the aforementioned incident involved a woman.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Would you have been happier if it had said, “Nance’s prior arrest records indicated that he was previously arrested for aggravated discharge of a weapon involving a person?” Because that sounds awkward to me.

TheFlopster,
@TheFlopster@lemmy.world avatar

Why not just end the sentence with the word “weapon”? That’s the important part.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because shooting a gun in your front yard at nobody in particular because you’re a crazy fucker is different than firing a gun in a way as to threaten a person or persons.

Nougat,

That's what the "aggravated" part is for. You don't get "aggravated" tacked on if another person is not involved.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Do you think most people understand that?

sphericth0r,

I think that they're saying that the person is implied, aggravated discharge of a weapon with no person involved is just target practice.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think it is implied. You can do that in your back yard towards a group of neighbors in the next yard who are pissing you off with a party.

Doing it with a single other person involved is a specific situation and specifying the gender just makes the copy easier to scan.

sphericth0r, (edited )

You're right about the backyard but that would involve a person or people. If the discharge is aggravated, by definition it implies that people are involved. Adding the gender of the person that is implied is done for an emotional response from certain groups by not providing context that is useful. We fill in the blank with our biases.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. Either a person or multiple people. This shows that it was just one person. And the gender is just for easier-to-read copy.

sphericth0r,

I'm not sure why you take issue with the facts that the word aggravated in this context means that the people are implied, or that adding words is not easier to read. It's okay that you didn't know what aggravated means, but it still doesn't change the fact that this is redundant information. Redundant information is harder to read, and the specific gender of the victim does not add anything to the context for the headline, a de facto harder to read title. It's possible that this was done on purpose, or that the author was also unaware that aggravated means people are involved and felt they needed to add words.

MagicShel,

Aggravated discharge implies involving another person so that wouldn’t be said. It feels like something is being hinted at - likely domestic violence - without being explicitly said for some reason. I think that’s the weirdness being commented on. If it was domestic violence why not say that? But if not that what is being hinted at?

It’s probably overthinking, but this is the internet.

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nice of you to notice the subtitles of the American justice system. This is actually a much harsher crime than just leaving the gender undefined.

solrize,

JOLIET, Ill. (CBS) – Eight people were found shot and killed in three different locations over two days in Joliet, and the suspect in the slayings was also found dead by a suspected suicide 1,200 miles away Monday night, police said.

The apparent self-inflicted gunshot death of 23-year-old Romeo Nance in Texas followed a manhunt by multiple law enforcement agencies.

Yikes.

rckclmbr,

Mess with the best, die like the rest

LanternEverywhere,

I want to reply "What a dumb comment" to you, but maybe I'm the one who's missing something. Explain to me what you were trying to say in your comment

NoIWontPickaName,

Don’t mess with Texas is an anti littering slogan that got co-opted when people forgot where it started

rckclmbr,

It’s a quote from the movie “Hackers”

NoIWontPickaName,

Shit you’re right.

Damn! I love that movie too.

rckclmbr,

Oh shit, it was deleted by a moderator! “Mess with the best, die like the rest” is a quote from the movie “Hackers”, and ZeroCool was the hackers name in the movie. It also is OPs username. I thought the quote was relevant to the post as well

LanternEverywhere,

Username aside, in what way is it relevant? What idea were you to express?

rckclmbr,

The idea that after 30 years that movie is still awesome

Also that the killer messed with the best (those 8 people killed) so he died like the rest (of other mass killers)

It’s a double entendres

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