Among the standard litany of accusations, gaslighting, condescension, and abuse that people who support genocide use instead of defending their position. Because they know their pro-genocide position is indefensible.
I’m not going to comment on whether or not Hamas’ attack was genocidal, because even if they meant it to be, I just don’t they have the capability. but like… Israel is bombing fucking hospitals and refugee camps inside the strip. That’s not how you go about “avoiding civilian casualties”.
the only side worth supporting here are the civilians caught in the middle.
Israel tells you this and you just take their word for it.
Al Shifa was supposed to be a Hamas command center. Israel promised us it was a command center, they gave us audio recordings as proof, they had a whole mockup of the suspected underground facilities.
There wasn’t shit, just a sub basement Israel dug.
Human shields should not be used. Human shields should not be bombed. I know this sounds like enlightened centrism, but it’s pretty clear, only the civilians were innocent. I cannot, simply cannot, support bombing a human shield. There is no point in defending it.
“Hamas uses human shields and has been for a long time. We know this. Everyone knows this.” only points to a clear bad guy if the human shield isn’t bombed. Never have I uttered one breath of support for Hamas. Using a human shield is deplorable.
Many different nations expressed support for the US in war efforts after 9/11. That support slowly dwindled as more and more atrocities were reported. Israel is speedrunning support loss.
Israel also uses human shields and they have been at the core of its expansion policy for decades. They call them “settlers.”
This double standard pisses me off more than just about anything else about the conflict. Israel is the undisputed champion of using civilians as cover for its military and expansionist goals.
And before anyone tries to claim this bullshit that they are acting without the authority of the state, first tell me who Netanyahu put in charge of settlement policy.
Literally all of them. There’s only the Nasser hospital in Khan Younis left but it’s barely functioning as it’s completely overwhelmed, and Khan Younis has been besieged for days. There were 36 in total
A sample size of 1,659 out of a population size of 334,914,895, with a population proportion of 50% and confidence level of 95% gives an error margin of 2.41%.
If there's anything I would not fault somebody about, it's misunderstanding sampling in a statistical sense. Just about the biggest case of "plug into formula and pray" of all of my classes I took. I'm looking back and it's just Greek letters to me now...
Oh yes, it's not meant as a slight. It's just something that humans need to be aware of. Just like how we need a forklift to move a one-ton object, we need to run calculations and trust the math when doing statistics.
1500-2000 is fine. They use random sampling and weighting. A larger sample size would decrease the margin of error but wouldn’t significantly alter the results. A margin of error of +/-3.1% is fine for this kind of snapshot of public opinion.
It is crucial to understand the weight and gravity of the term “genocide”. It is not a term to be thrown around lightly or used carelessly. The act of genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. It is a heinous crime against humanity and a violation of the most fundamental human rights.
Unfortunately, the term “genocide” has been misused and abused in recent times. The ongoing conflict in certain regions of the world has led to the misapplication of the term, especially in situations where it does not necessarily apply. The mislabeling of such conflicts as “genocides” is not only inaccurate but also disrespectful to the victims of actual genocides.
The Tutsi in Rwanda, the Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge, the Armenians by the Ottoman Empire, and Darfur are just a few examples of the horrific atrocities that have been committed in the name of genocide. These are real genocides with real victims, and to equate them with other conflicts that do not meet the criteria of genocide is to belittle the suffering and pain of those who have endured such atrocities.
It is important to distinguish between acts of violence and genocide, as the latter is a specific and intentional crime. The use of the term “genocide” inappropriately can have serious consequences, including the potential to undermine legitimate efforts to prevent and respond to actual genocides.
Therefore, it is essential to use the term “genocide” with caution and precision. Those who misuse the term, either intentionally or out of ignorance, do a disservice to the victims of real genocides and hinder efforts to prevent such crimes from occurring in the future.
I admire any call for civility, so long as it comes in good faith. I will assume good faith on your part. I, without any doubt, believe that Israels Government has nothing less than the eradication of the Palestinian Ethnic Group from the region in their plans. Call that whatever you want, it is still fucking evil.
35%? So that means 65% of the respondents are smart enough to understand what genocide is and this isn’t one. tell you what Sherlock, when you and your 35% other friends stop insulting the actual victims of real genocides then I’ll listen to things you say but until then you can just be quiet because you have no idea what you are talking about.
You guys understand that by continually misusing the term and calling this a genocide you are belittling the victims of actual genocides such as the Tutsi in Rwanda, the Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge, the Armenians by the Ottoman Empire, Darfur. The list goes on. This is not a genocide and anyone that calls it on is either willfully spreading misinformation or is woefully misinformed as to what a real genocide is.
It says quite a bit about most people’s opinions about the ICJ. Anyway, they do not decide the correct usage of the term genocide. That was determined in the past and I am sorry but the crap going on in Gaza isn’t one.
I know this is a troll but just to be clear the role of the ICJ is literally to determine whether Israel’s alleged actions are capable of being covered by the Genocide Convention. Today they decided that this is indeed the case and the measures they announced, as meager as they are, are legally binding.
The bar for plausibility is very low, and rightly so, because the intention is to intervene early and protect civilians. The court will most likely issue an order to stop the fighting for humanitarian reasons. However, it will probably take a couple of years before they make a determination regarding the allegations of genocide.
Had to re read this a few times. Civilians are dying. The UN should stop it on humanitarian grounds. But hey, it’s the people calling it a genocide that need to be focused on. 🤔
Israel is blocking aid organisations from buying food, water and medicine in israel and transporting it through the Ker Shalom crossing. Forcing everything through the extremely slow Egypt crossing which they are actively holding up. If they wanted to prevent weapon smuggle then they should love it going through Ker Shalom
I cannot think of a single possible explanation other than israel trying to starve Gazans and commit genocide. How are Americans this brainwashed?
This isn’t limited to the US. What are Israeli citizens doing? Personally i think the US should just stay the fuck out of it and take back whatever stuff we can that we gave them. Cut off support and actively denounce, but they won’t.
Propaganda. An abysmal education system. Failing social structures. Corrupt media. Networks of the wealthy using their influence to push society in the direction they desire.
They are certainly celebrating this mass delusion in Iran. I guess they figure Russia managed to fool the US into authoritarianism, why shouldn’t Iran take a turn?
If that headline said one third of Americans don’t believe Israel is commiting genocide which is also an accurate from the results it would set a very different tone.
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