Hillock, (edited )

It's a relic of the past. Old keyboards didn't have dedicated arrow keys and since many programs were only controlled by arrow keys rather than a mouse, having a num lock key was a good solution to the problem. But if you are still stuck in an environment where you have to navigate a lot with arrow keys, the num lock still comes in handy. Having Pg Up and Down and the Home/End keys nearby is super handy in this situation.

It's still useful for some old video games, especially for multiplayer where both play at the same time.

Iunnrais,

If you need to type numbers really fast, of course there’s no beating numlock. 10 key for the win. Of course that doesn’t get at why not just leave it as 10 key forever and skip the arrows. I know a lot of older programs… like msdos older…required the use of the arrow keys. And some people do prefer it for their cursor, and it doesn’t hurt to provide the option.

Andi,
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An easy indicator to see if a computer is on / wake it up / see if the keyboard is connected / see if a PC has crashed.

keyboardpithecus, (edited )

It depends on if you are a heavy mouse user or a heavy keyboard user and you are using a laptop with a restricted keyboard. Personally to scroll a document I prefer the buttons page up/down home/end. Often I also use those buttons to select big parts of a file that I want to copy. E. g. Shift+Ctrl+End form me is a useful combination. On the other hand I rarely use the numeric pad for numbers, but I also feel more comfortable typing with the left hand, I guess that a lot more people heavy keyboard user would prefer the numeric pad.

Yes the mouse is changing the habits for a lot of people, but the numlock may still be useful for some.

Mdotaut801,

I don’t think I’ve ever used numlock for anything other than “oh shit, I must have accidentally hit it when I was entering numbers via 10 key so I need to turn it off.

CoffeeDev, (edited )
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I think it is still is useful, as some software still hasn’t figured out how to turn on numlock automatically, and for a few applications number pad scrolling can be better than the arrow keys, but it is probably less useful than the scroll lock key at this point.

Tavarin,

I have a smaller keyboard that doesn’t have dedicated arrow keys, or any of the home, page up, etc. They’re all on the numpad, so numlock for me is very useful.

justanotherjo,

no use whatsoever. this is an artifact from the days when the arrows, etc. did not exist as separate keys.

wjrii, (edited )
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For a full size, 104-key PC keyboard, everything that is mapped to the numpad is also somewhere else, and the keys are spaced out enough that you'd almost never need to turn off the numpad, so the key is just there for oddball legacy apps that do weird stuff. It was more important before IBM released the fully "modern" 101-key Model M.

For laptop keyboards and other reduced format keyboards that still include all or part of a numpad, it can still be useful. I actually use autohotkeys instead, but one of my budget mechanical keyboards only has the arrow nav keys and the rest are accessed by turning off NumLock.

literallyacat,
literallyacat avatar

10-key. Pretty useful for my job as a bookkeeper.

spongebue,

Right, but do you ever turn num lock off? I think the OP was trying to say it should just be stuck on because why would you use those arrow, home/end/pg up/etc buttons that kick in if num lock is off?

jem0,

Yes, there are arrows on the numeric keyboard which can be used for various reasons, also home and end buttons.

key,

It’s useful if you enable Mouse Keys mode. Which is useful if you find yourself without a working mouse for one reason or another.

ryo,

Never used it, really inconvenient. Stays off here and now you gave me an idea to rebind to something useful.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

I have literally removed the NumLock keycap from all of my keyboards to make sure I don’t accidentally turn it off. Never missed it.

I have also removed the F1 keycap. Never use it.

curiosityLynx,

@PlutoniumAcid Use F1 for keybindings of your own choosing. Unlike with NumLock, that actually works regardless of what kind of keyboard it is.

@parowki_z_dzemem

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

I have literally removed the NumLock keycap from all of my keyboards to make sure I don’t accidentally turn it off. Never missed it.

I have also removed the F1 keycap. Never use it.

DrQuint,

Scroll Lock is the one that comes to mind as a safe removal.

However, for me, the real useless AND inconvenient piece of shit I wish I could rebind as I want that space for something better is Caps Lock. Unfortunately, it’s not that easy to do.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

Use autohotkey! I have a very simple solution for this, where the caps lock key is mapped either as a backspace key, or it minimizes the current window.

gunnervi,
gunnervi avatar

I've set my computer so that holding caps lock lets me type in Greek

commandar,

Swap caps lock and left control. It's the first thing I do on most of my computers, especially notebooks.

The newer versions of Windows Powertoys from Microsoft makes it easy on Windows.

Been easy on Mac and most Linux distros for years.

WigglyTortoise,

You should look into Kanata. It lets you remap the whole keyboard, same idea as QMK, except it’s running on your computer instead of the keyboard itself.

It can be a bit tricky to set up if you’re not used to that sort of thing, but I managed to figure it out so if you have any questions feel free to ask.

ThisIsNecessary,

Lol I also remove the Num Lock key! I find myself accidentally pressing it too much and I just never want to use that function anyway.

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