xlash123,
@xlash123@sh.itjust.works avatar

This should go in the dictionary as an example of a strawman argument

LodeMike,

I’m amazed she has the ability to read and write.

Voroxpete,

So here’s the thing; even if Gaza wasn’t under constant assault from a brutal genocidal occupation, I still wouldn’t want to spend any amount of time there, because I’m a queer person and that’s definitely not an environment that I’d feel safe or comfortable in.

And I still say Free Palestine.

The fact that I wouldn’t want to live there doesn’t change the fundamental human rights of the people who do live there. They’re not any less human just because a sizable chunk of them hate me for existing.

A decent chunk of North America hates me for existing too. There are plenty of US states I wouldn’t feel comfortable visiting. Doesn’t mean I’d be happy to see a genocide in Texas.

Plenty of Jewish people don’t like the fact that I exist either. Doesn’t mean Hitler was right. He threw queers into the camps right alongside the Jews who hated us. And sometimes the Jews and the queers were the same people, because life is complicated like that. Just like there are queer people in Palestine being murdered right alongside everyone else.

Life isn’t easy or simple, but some things are; genocide is bad, even when it’s done to people you don’t like, or people who don’t like you.

yournamehere,

hamas destroyed all equality.

fatah for gaza. fuck hamas.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Congratulations. You definitely understand what this is about. Good job.

yournamehere,

just think ishaan is an idiot.

drislands,

What does “fatah” mean?

yournamehere,
PhlubbaDubba,

Fatah are the party in control of west bank and who are seen as the ones that can actually be negotiated with since they aren’t islamists

They’re also known for being exactly as corrupt as Hamas

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The wink-wink nudge-nudge of Israeli-friendly politicians is always “Yeah sure you say you support Palestinians, but if you ever had to live next door to one you’d hate them as much as we do”.

And if you apply this to how these same politicians see migrant, poc, lgbt, and any other resident who isn’t sporting an American Eagle face tattoo, you begin to understand conservative politics a little better.

multifariace,

I have plenty of hateful religious nuts around me already. The only difference is they don’t have complete control of local government yet.

paddirn,

Because you should only want to help people if you can get something out of it or if you plan on visiting them.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

you should only want to help people if you can get something out of it

That’s exactly what Republicans believe. It’s always “what’s in it for me?”

Muscar,

It’s less that it’s something they believe and more that it’s the only thing they can imagine. They literally can’t picture doing something for someone else without gaining something themselves. There is no good in their hearts, minds and souls that make it possible for them to imagine a person helping others just because they can.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Hell, even setting aside all that. Imagine if I told you that one of the hottest tourist destination of the 1980s was Beruit.

You can be an entirely selfish prick and still not want to see the pristine beaches of Gaza and Lebanon ruthlessly carpet bombed by bloodthirsty bigots and greedy arms dealers.

pastabatman,

She’s right that I don’t want to go to Gaza. But the question is WHY don’t I want to go to Gaza? Hint: it’s something that’s been in the news recently.

TheFriar,

But do you condemn Hamas?

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

But the question is WHY don’t I want to go to Gaza? Hint: it’s something that’s been in the news recently.

Scary Brown People. Also, crime. Also, non-Christian Religions. Also, plus, too, poverty which should be bombed off the face of the earth.

I am a conservative and I am very smart.

djsoren19,

I’ll take the downvotes.

I wouldn’t have wanted to go in the first place, before the October attacks, which I think is the point this airhead is trying to make. As a bisexual genderfluid bottom that presents femme, the Palestinian regime would be hostile towards me. Realistically, I will never have any interest in traveling to any theocratic country.

What Boebert actually doesn’t understand is that I don’t fucking care. I don’t care if Palestinians would accept me, or if I’d get stoned to death if I made the mistake of going. What Israel is doing is wrong, and I am morally opposed to it. The fact that I don’t really care about the tenets of the group that is being slaughtered, that I don’t have a ton of respect for the communities being forced from their homes, none of it is going to prevent me from supporting Palestine through this and demanding Israel stop their senseless violence. Genocide is wrong, end of story. That Boebert thinks you need any more reason to protest is the real story here.

some_guy,

Nice try, but you lost. Here’s your participation trophy. Oh, wait. I forgot these make you super mad. Here’s a thousand.

Sam_Bass,

Snark sounds like smart if youre not listening too close

friend_of_satan,

For anybody looking for more info about exactly how and when Israel destroyed the universities in Gaza, here’s a photo video essay: www.nbcnews.com/specials/…/index.html

SuddenDownpour,

What’s even the point she’s trying to make? I’m somewhat certain that I wouldn’t have a great opinion of the average citizen of Saudi Arabia if I were to meet them all one by one, but if they were being the victims of a genocide, I’d still be against the aggressors. Does she understand that someone might be opposed to crimes even when they don’t like their victims, or has the brain of the fascist not reached that developmental stage yet?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Does she understand

No.

You could ask this about anything regarding her and the answer would still be no.

She got a GED in her 30s and only because she was going to run for office. She married a guy who exposed himself to her and her friends in a bowling alley while she was a teenager and he was already an adult.

Jimmyeatsausage,

Let’s be fair…she did leave the pedo for a guy that would take her boobs out in a public theater while she gave him a handy.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t want to kink shame, but it is that she’s into the whole public nudity thing or is it just that she’s extremely stupid and has terrible judgment when it comes to men? Because I’m thinking the latter.

frezik,

Even if she’s an exhibitionist, there are ethical ways to express that kink than doing it in movie theaters.

Though I also wouldn’t be surprised if she got kicked out of every kink club in the Denver area. That would tend to limit her ethical options, but it’s also on her.

whoreticulture,

She’s not dumb because she got her GED late in life, she’s dumb because she’s a racist fascist. I know people who have gotten their GED later in life due to various circumstances … when you make criticisms like this you are throwing random people under the bus. Critique the things she says and does, not the GED.

barsquid,

All Repubs value white supremacist hierarchy more than they value truth or integrity. You are having a hard time understanding because your values are not delusional racist fascism.

These are the same people that want to wrap Mexicans in barbed wire and drown them in the Rio Grande. They love genocide when it is happening to a group they hate. Muslims are a group they hate.

PoliticalAgitator,

Republicans will cheer any take, no matter how shit, as long that shit comes from the right mouth and lands on the right people.

Rhynoplaz,

Much like Billy Madison influencing a group of First graders, shitting your pants is now cool.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

and thus she reveals how the conservative mind thinks: when recognizing that a place is being bombed to shit and she wouldn’t want to go there, her reaction isn’t to want that place to stop being bombed, but to avoid it entirely.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But they can’t get on a plane fast enough for an official government visit to Israel. They love hanging out with Israeli government officials at Mediterranean resorts…

barsquid,

They just have no empathy whatsoever. The rest of us are normal and can understand the basics of the Golden Rule. Like I want sex pest pedophiles to stop jerking men off at musicals with children present. Even in a Repub area and even if I don’t personally feel like watching Beetlejuice.

Kusimulkku,

A bombed out warzone under Hamas (or Israeli military) control sounds like a really appealing destination.

Tartas1995,

“Help starving children!”

“But you wouldn’t want to be there! Gotten!!!”

Coherent. Very coherent.

Burn_The_Right,

Conservatives are profoundly unintelligent.

Cowbee,

Deeply unserious people.

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