Pratai,

Without even reading that article, I’m going to guess that no fault divorce is something that benefits women. I’m basing this solely on the fact that conservatives don’t like women much- as most of their policy seems to be designed to hurt them in some way.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

You are correct.

admiralteal,

It's also classic "XYZ behavior that most people agree is not a preferable outcome is against our preferences, but instead of creating a safe and protective society that prevents people from ending up in bad situations in the first place we'll instead legislate the preference directly."

See: abortion, war on drugs, the entire carceral system, etc.

superduperenigma,

In addition to what others have already said, implementation of no-fault divorce laws has led to a dramatic decrease in reports of domestic violence. It’s basically a “get out of a bad marriage free” card, the only people it doesn’t benefit are abusive pieces of shit who want to use marriage as a prison for their spouse.

Pratai,

BINGPOT!

captainlezbian,

Yep. Though, much like many things that benefit women and are hated by conservatives, it also benefits men.

No fault divorce benefits everyone but people who want to be married to someone even when that person doesn’t want to be married to them. It means that you don’t have to prove anything to get divorced, you just have to say “I don’t want to be married anymore”.

As someone happily married, I’m a lifelong advocate of making divorce accessible to everyone who wants one.

flta,

Right-wing commentators like Steven Crowder and Matt Walsh have ramped up complaints in recent months that it is too easy for people — specifically women — to get divorces. All states currently have some version of a no-fault divorce law, but Republicans in Texas and Nebraska list the dissolution or restriction of no-fault divorce in their state party political platforms.

In Louisiana earlier this year, state GOP members debated officially backing the dissolution of no-fault divorce, but no decision was made.

So we have the Democratic Party protecting and even expanding women’s rights in the states they control while the GOP has already dismantled reproductive rights and are now angling to repeal no-fault divorce.

Yet millions of people will say “Both sides” as they either not vote, vote Republican, or vote 3rd party while agreeing that no-fault divorce should be allowed…

captainlezbian,

I think it’s important to express no fault divorce not as a women’s rights issue but as an everyone’s rights issue. Yes, we will be the primary beneficiaries of it, probably by quite a bit. But every man who can’t prove his spouse is abusing him needs no fault divorce too. Every person who feels trapped in a marriage needs no fault divorce.

And this gets to the crux of the matter. Republicans are actively fighting so you don’t get to decide whether or not you’re married unless it conforms to their personal beliefs. They’re seeking to remove your bodily autonomy. Choices are good, freedom is good, even when you choose to live the way they want to force you to.

bedrooms,

I never understood the alternative. If either of the couple wants to divorce, why is the government supposed to be able to stop it?

My country, in fact, bans no fault divorce. I mean, I don't want to divorce, but it's a matter of human rights.

bioemerl,

The problem really isn't the choice to get divorced, it's stuff like child support and alimony crossed with a court system very biased towards giving those to women when they probably shouldn't be

Divorce has or had become a "no fault" leave and make money system. I see literally zero reason to get married the way things are now. All loss and no gain.

bedrooms,

I think you might have a fair point. I have a different opinion though.

If men are treated unfairly, although I don't take sides on this exact issue, that's a separate thing that should be fixed. Doesn't mean to abolish no fault divorce. In theory. I don't know enough to decisively argue how practical that theory is.

Nekomancer,

From the article:

What is no-fault divorce? No-fault divorce is, as it sounds, a divorce that can be obtained without anyone having to allege or prove that one party’s behavior is to blame. A majority of states also allow fault divorce, where one party can claim reasons like adultery, abandonment, long-term incarceration or cruelty.

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