He's polling worse than fucking RFK jr, he stands no chance. YoUr'Re AlL JuSt SiTtInG tHeRe! We're more than a year away from the general election, which he will never make it to because there are months of primaries before where Trump will assuredly win.
Training and prepping. Historically, there's only been one way to stop fascist conservatism, and it's not something we are allowed to talk openly about until we're doing it.
Did the 6th of January insurrectionists do the right thing, given they believed they were fighting against an authoritarian government? Or should they have accepted the result of the democratic process even though they disagreed with it?
I agree in the event of a genocidal government, you throw them out, but obviously there needs to be a very high bar and a lot of safeguards to prevent partisan misuse. A losing Republican could claim a winning Democrat wants to conduct a genocide against unborn babies or something and the Jan6 insurrectionists would feel they were justified because of it.
What are the most damning pieces of evidence that Desantis will conduct a genocide if elected?
Should the 2016 election result have been overturned?
Making sure that all of the subhuman republicans around you are as uncomfortable as humanly possible. They live among us and far too many people tolerate them.
Not much can be done as of yet. The election season will really kick off in January, and short of hiring a hit squad, marching around with signs and getting screamed at/assaulted by rednecks doesn't really seem too effective. What would you propose?
Do the Florida sewer and septic sucking service workers have a union? Might be able to convince them to use their, ah “waste” from yet another school’s clogged septic tanks to, uh “fertilize” desantis’ yard.
This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) “elsewhere”. Thought it might be welcome to have here.
If you’re trying to keep track of where we’re at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 8/1/2023
Washington, D.C. - 4 felonies, January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment <- You Are Here
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing
Georgia - Election Interference
Investigation <- You Are Here
2 new grand juries impaneled 7/11/2023.
Indictment - July 11th to September 1st.
(Grand Jury work expected July 31 to Aug. 18)
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing
New York State - 34 felonies, Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida - 40 felonies, Federal documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a crimimal one.
It won’t even if he does. Trump isn’t the cause, he’s a symptom. The US is probably not going to survive as a unified nation for very long, and honestly, it probably shouldn’t.
You mean the ones that are also headed towards total societal collapse within the next decade? Yeah, I’m sure they’ll totally have plenty of resources to spare for a trans-pacific invasion when they can’t grow any crops.
Who said anything about that? This country should be split up entirely. It’s already completely unable to function by any reasonable standards, and for decades the harm it’s caused its own people and the world at large has been increasingly outweighing any good it does. Empires are always negative forces and should always be dismantled.
Your solution ignores that all we really need to do (and I say that like it's easy but I acknowledge it's not) is remove the parts of our system that prevent an accurately representative government. Stuff like the electoral college, the cap on House seats, and the dominance of plurality voting. The root problem we see here is that a minority of people have more power over the government than the majority of people.
Like I said, this is much easier typed out than done, but it is not impossible, and is much more likely to succeed than "make a fascist country and give it a humongous border with the democratic country that it views as 'the enemy'" Even if there were a clean way to split it up (there isn't: cities are blue, rural areas are red), much of the red state's income comes from the federal taxes from blue states. Do you really think that's going to end well?
This country should be split up entirely. It’s already completely unable to function by any reasonable standards, and for decades the harm it’s caused its own people
Weird that you start talking about Russia all of a sudden.
Do you think that Americans do not understand that it is precisely because the USA is the most successful country in the world that foreigners try to shit on us?
Did not say the US is "far above every other country", only that we are the most successful country in the world, on average, and by multiple metrics, but not all metrics.
I wouldn't say we're a shining city on the hill that should be an example for everyone, we certainly have our issues, but we shouldn't overlook the domains where we are successful.
Like I said, there are some things we do extremely well. Sharing the wealth of the country amongst the citizens of the country is something we fail at miserably. My personal favorite thing is the first amendment to the constitution because I happen to value freedom of thought. Another thing we tend to do really well. Our culture also has a certain resilience that I appreciate. I only hate on America because I know what it could be if there was collective pushback on the oligarchy that seems to have so many of us in a trance.
Splitting the US like that would be absolute chaos and probably result in several civil wars. This would also destroy all federal aid programs and I can guarantee no states are going to step in to fill that void. Dividing the country further than it already is will not solve anything.
This country is going to implode one way or another. We can try to have it happen in a kinda sorta controlled way, or we can do your idea of sticking our fingers in our ears and just let the pressure build until it breaks in the most destructive way possible.
It’s going to hurt no matter what. Trying to avoid the pain will only end in worse pain.
This country is going to implode one way or another.
Then it is a good thing America is the most successful country in the entire world, Ivan. So that we don't have to worry about Russia's imminent implosion. I guess that is why Russians are fleeing their country in droves.
The Roman empire was still the most successful empire in the world at the time it collapsed. So was the British empire. And the Spanish empire. And the Mongol empire. And the Abassid Caliphate. Should I go on, or do you get the fucking point yet?
Yeah, Russia is one of the worst, most worthless shitholes in the world, far worse than the US. That doesn’t nullify the situation the US is in, nor the sitiation it’s headed towards. This country cannot and will not survive the already inevitable famines of the 2030’s.
The Roman empire was still the most successful empire in the world at the time it collapsed.
Nope. Constantople was a tiny city state in 1453. Italy was controlled by barbiarians in 476. Also, the Roman Empire lasted 2000 years. None of those empires were anywhere near the "most successful" when they collapse.
This country cannot and will not survive the already inevitable famines of the 2030’s.
LOL. So Russia is not going to survive another 10 years even? Wow, I suspected as much, Ivan. Good thing my country is the most successful country in the world. We'll try to help you guys over there after Putin in put in prison.
Fuck off, jackass. Being anti-American doesn’t mean pro-Russian, and anyone with even a single brain cell rattling around in their skull knows they’re both trash.
Damn your huge envy of Americans for creating the most successful country in the world has caused you some serious personal issues. Nobody ever thought you were American like you kept pretending to be, because everything you posted sounded like obvious cringy propaganda to actual Americans LMFAO. You stay in your country of Bumfuckistan or Russia, and work on your huge personal jealousy issues that made you try to impersonate one of us. While our country is busy being the leader of the Free World.
No one said balkanization was a good thing. Just that it happens, and is currently happening, being driven by multi-billion dollar media corporations trying to inflame a culture war to keep the lower classes occupied. They were too successful, and the wheels are starting to come off.
We might be able to fix it, but the current trajectory is pretty clear.
Our very first mistake was not sending Nixon to prison. Set a bad precedent.
I agree with you in principle, however I don't know how we could have accomplished that without preventing Ford from using his pardon, causing a constitutional crisis.
The right/bigots is always talking about the gay agenda. We don't have one. We just want to live our lives. Its the right who has an agenda. They worked hard to rig the court and are now making up lies to take to the court so the LGBTQ rights can be taken away. They want us back in the closet. And it's not just the LGBTQ community that they are looking to strip rights from. Non-christians, women, minorities, and workers to name a few.
Every accusation seems to be a projection from the right wing. They claim an agenda from their targets so that when they are accused of an agenda they can point to their own claims and say “We are just responding”
It also seems that their imagination is so limited; that when they are pressed to create something their opponents would do, they use one of their own actions or desires.
Also if their own actions or desires are so awful when projected onto their opponents; what does that say about them.
The right/bigots is always talking about the gay agenda. We don't have one.
Okay, but you can tell me what the gay agenda really is. Is it like the Jew agenda? Seems like that one came up a lot before people switched to talking about the gay agenda.
The funny thing about free speech is that naming who is part of a hate group can likely be argued as free speech moreso than "whaaah, we got fired for the awful shit we said", given that it's called freedom of speech and not freedom from the consequences of my speech. Doubly so when you're talking about consequences brought about by a private organization/not the government. After all, their place of employment has freedom of speech rights too, as well as the ability to choose who they associate with.
They want more people in the work force. I've been working since I was 16. They just want to squeeze as much labor out of us as they can. Lower the age to 12 and that's 4 more years. Raise the retirement age couple of years, and put people in a position where they can't really retire (hence getting rid of student loan debt forgiveness). Hell, a lot of people already can't retire. We're born, basically have about 4 years off, then it's school, maybe college. Most people are already in the work force in some capacity by high school. And that's basically it. Work til we die. That's our life lol. Oh, except for the ultra rich. They don't have to do shit.
It’s because the system is designed in such a way in the US that it conditions us to think like that. The US modern school system is literally based off working in factories, so it’s no surprise that we’ve been conditioned that we need to work to work so much because we’ve been raised in an environment that mimics a work environment for around 14+ years of our lives. It’s kinda fucked up.
Progressives need to stop pretending that packing the court would open the door for conservatives to do the same.
At this point, conservatives will simply do the same if they lose control of it. They do not care about law and order and they do not care about mores. They only care about oppressing the weak and solidifying their power. The SCOTUS is a political institution that needs immediate reform.
We're racing to doomsday and they're leaning on the accelerator while progressives argue about whether it's safe to turn off the ignition.
Progressives know damn well that Republicans have already stacked the court. It's the establishment Democrats that are whining about an imaginary retaliation. You know, the centrists who are basically Republican lite, the assholes who whine about how extreme the Left-most parts of the party are, while ignoring how extreme the entire right-wing has always been.
We've seen this shit play out dozens of times in the past, the centrists say we progressives need to moderate ourselves to appeal more broadly, that we need to compromise or lose support. The reality plays out that any compromise we make is what loses us our support, and the centrists then side with the extremists on the right to hurt us more.
we shouldve been packing the court already. but nope democrats dont wanna rock the boat. something about when they go low we get high. no sorry, when they go low kick em in the fucking mouth.
Like how the Dems won't get rid of the filibuster, while the Reps got rid of it to push through the judicial nominees. Or how the Dems did absolutely nothing about the Rep Senate ignoring Obamas nominee and then rushing through their own at the last minute to stack SCOTUS.
Dems just can't admit that they need to play on the Reps level because the other team openly cheating while you take the high ground just tolerating the intolerant.
It didn't originally exist in the Senate either, but the worse Vice President we ever had, decided that the Senate had too many rules and got rid of most of them. One of those original rules allowed any senator to call for a vote, even when someone was on the floor speaking.
This rule, called the previous question for some reason, still exists in the House, along with the Hour Rule which limits the time a Representative can spend holding the floor.
So we already have the framework to end the filibuster, but conservatives on both sides of the aisle like it because it means that they can thwart progress.
Of course, when it gets in the way, Republicans quickly carve out an exception for themselves, like they did with Judicial appointments.
The Senate is a useless and bad institution anyway. It's the US House of Lords, where land is being given rights to vote over people.
If we're swinging magic wands anyway, just get rid of it and give its duties to the House. Or maybe return it to being a governor-appointed advisory board that only has proforma powers over legislation that the House can override.
At a minimum, make it so Senators can cast as many votes as they have constituents. Do the same thing for reps in the House.
Yeah, with what majority? There are only 47 Democrats and 2 independents who are interested in any politics left of center. Manchin, techincally a Democrat, will only vote for his personal, center-right beliefs, and Sinema, the only remaining independent has shown she's in it solely for personal financial gain. There was no time in which there were enough Democrats, excepting the two aforementioned posers, to add seats to the court or confirm any justice without some money changing hands. If it weren't about power or money we could have had 52 states (DC and PR) and at least 3 more truly democratic senators (considering the outside chance of a 50/50 split in PR). But that was impossible because it would have reduced the power of Manchin and Sinema, and that's the only reason for them to exist.
This is the correct response. Expanding the court has been impossible, and will remain impossible, until there is a large enough majority. Until that time, arguing that Dems should “pack the court” is delusional.
Your people died under that flag while engaging in armed action against the Union, fighting for the side that wanted to preserve and enshrine slavery. You know, just in case anyone was misled by your bullshit, Chism.
Yup yup.The Rebel Flag is a modern invention of racists, it was never officially flown in battle or otherwise. The one it was based on was square, making it a different flag, and only flew over one company in the Confederacy. Most Confederate soldiers wouldn't have even recognized it. Didn't have to, there were many Confederate flags but only one union flag. They only needed to recognize the one.
Yeah, those fuckers killed men in the US Army. To preserve slavery. And then the officer corps and political leaders weren't executed at the end of the war like they should have been. John Brown got it worse for being a hero.
Absolutely. 40 acres and a mule. Along with the vote. During reconstruction many people in government were freedmen. Can you imagine what our country would be like now if that continued?
These racist fascists really have fucked things over
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