True, they’re so far gone they can never come back to reality. But who cares? Some of them will act out and land in jail or worse. The majority will just keep writing text on the internet and if you don’t engage you will never have to hear from them again.
He won’t be dying in prison. In fact it is exceedingly unlikely he will ever even be found guilty of anything that brings more than a stern talking to and a small fine.
We will be lucky if he manages to not win the election at this point.
"Find out " is not something that ever really happens to people that travel in his circles in this country.
You or I? Oh yeah, they would have a place for us right next to the rope they have waiting for Snowden before they got us in the holding cell. The guilty verdict in a trial would be a foregone conclusion. But that doesn’t happen to the well to do and connected in the good ole US of A.
While I would agree on most things, the handling of classified documents will lead to a guilty charge. He will get three years in a hotel suite or something.
If even someone like Idi Amin can avoid going to prison, I think Trump will probably get off the hook too. World leaders are rarely ever punished for their crimes, not in the same way us peasants are.
“These are serious charges and if the former president is found guilty and does not strike some kind of a sentencing deal he may die in prison given his age.”
Since he is an ex-president who is guaranteed a secret service detail for life, isn’t he much more likely to be granted house arrest or some other sort of “private” incarceration?
He is, but also because of age. Judges and juries are very lenient on the elderly when it comes to sentencing due to prison survivability. That said, a deal is guaranteed and leniency isn’t, especially when we’re likely talking about white collar prison
While that’s generally true, this case is completely unprecedented. Ex-president charged with stealing top secret documents, obstruction of justice, and who knows what else before we’re done.
Not to mention the other indictments he’s got coming up for election interference and inciting a coup attempt.
No matter how lenient you may want to be, you absolutely cannot set a precedent that the punishment for attempting a coup of the United States government is… confinement to your luxury resort where you can continue to gin up another coup attempt at your leisure. You have to make an example of him or you just invite a repeat of the same attempt over and over again.
True. Yet, I still find it extremely difficult to believe he’ll be behind bars anywhere.
I don’t even understand the whole Secret Service argument. If, he were put in prison, the extraordinary level of protection from the actual prison personnel should be just as adequate.
He belongs behind bars at minimum. I think he actually deserves a seat in an electric chair.
His rights to protection are granted by law. The law can also be revised to state that any former president convicted of a federal level felony and subjected to incarceration are no longer eligible.
It’s the prisons problem, like any other high profile prisoner.
Prison problem… yes. They should be able to dismiss Secret Service within the property boundaries.
Other than medical issues that can’t be handled in-house, there is zero reason for cheeto chump to leave the grounds. Video conference should handle any legal issues.
Id argue it doesn’t matter. Protection is granted at the generosity of Congress. It can be revoked, and should be revoked if he is convicted.
There was a plan that (mind you, the law passed before Obama’s election) W was the last president to recieve lifetime protection. All others coming after would get protection for like 4-8 years, then have to pay for it themselves.
Congress reversed course and revised the law to be lifetime again.
The law can change at any moment. They can easily write "this privledge will end if a former president is convinced of a crime and is incarcerated " and solve the logistics problem. It’s not a right. It’s a privledge.
Best example of that would be Hitler, actually. After inciting a coup attempt in 1923, although he should have been sentenced to death for that, he only got the minimum possible sentence of five years, with the possibility of an early release. Which he got so he was only incarcerated for nine months, living pretty much in luxury in his own seperate tract of the prison. He used the time to write “Mein Kampf” and prepare his rise to political power.
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