Republicans in New Hampshire Want to Ban Abortion After 15 ... Days | That’s just one day after at-home tests can confirm a pregnancy

Republicans currently hold a trifecta in New Hampshire, with GOP majorities in the House and Senate and a Republican occupying the governor’s mansion. But control of the House — the largest in the country with 400 members — sits on a knife’s edge. There are 198 Republicans and 195 Democrats, three independents, and four vacant seats.

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Republicans “claim that they don’t want to ban abortion anymore, and that they don’t want to change the 24 week ban. And here we are, with a bill from sponsors in both chambers, trying to move the ban to 15 days,” says Alexis Simpson, deputy minority leader of the New Hampshire House. Simpson pointed to other proposals floated by GOP members to restrict abortion, including a Texas-style abortion bounty law in 2021, and 15-week ban that is expected to be introduced in the upcoming session.

FoundTheVegan,
FoundTheVegan avatar

Right wing: I shouldn't have to get a vaccine or wear a mask! Respect my bodily rights!

Also the right wing: I personally get to dictate what happens with every single womb.

Goferking0,

if they couldn’t afford a kid they shouldn’t have had one - - also right wing

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

https://s11.stc.yc.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/10672340/de-1200x900.jpg

This one said “State didn’t ask you to give birth”. She was beurocrat, but she was “walked away” after this.

You know, fired from Gestapo for cruelty.

Hellbent,

I’ve called and left a voicemail for the one of the two bill sponsors. Two don’t have numbers in their gencourt pages and the senators phone goes to an assistants voicemail. You can be damned sure I’m calling my local reps tomorrow.

BugleFingers,

If you do, please please do send me the numbers so I may also do so. This is pretty upsetting news, I don’t even know if I wanna finish my bugles now

Rapidcreek,

A new American Family Survey finds that nearly half of Republicans said they would prefer a national policy on abortion, instead of letting each state decide.

Among Republicans, that’s nearly 10 points higher than when the same question was asked last year.

deseret.com/…/american-family-survey-2023-abortio…

assassin_aragorn,

Either it enshrines abortion rights, or Republicans will discover everything so far has been child’s play. They’ll see a backlash that’s record setting.

Evilcoleslaw,

This in the state of “Live Free or Die”?

bobs_monkey,

GOP: just die, thanks.

ironhydroxide,

But first, get permission

phoneymouse,

They chose die

Staccato,

The way they behave I think they meant to use “and” instead of “or”.

PsychedSy,

Also home of the Free State Project. I know Libertarians here showed up to protect abortion rights, hopefully they do the same in NH.

MagicShel,

I think the point is to allow contraceptive and day after pills, but ban any sort of actual abortion. I’d guess it’s to address folks who believe birth control is abortion. I’m not sure if this is eyerollingly stupid or part of a devious strategy that’s going somewhere serious.

To be clear, fuck these idiots, but I want to know if we need to defend against some new avenue of attack.

silence7,

It’s probably meant to make the 6-week-bans look “reasonable”

PrinceWith999Enemies,

The national and state level gop are also trying to ban day after pills and has floated the idea of banning contraception.

TechyDad,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

At what point does the right ban a woman saying no to sex? After all, if contraception is redefined as abortion, then a woman refusing to have sex with a guy is “aborting” the potential baby they could have had together.

I guess I shouldn’t give the right ideas.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Too soon unfortunately

Hellbent,

Here are the Nh gencourt pages for the 4 bill sponsors. If you live in NH I encourage you to call them AND your reps as well.

rep Testerman

rep Sellers

rep Perez

sen Gendreau

CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

Weird, the gaslighters kept telling us that Republicans would not steal rights if Roe was repealed.

Meanwhile, if I take a look around, you have stuff like this, AND Republicans rubbing their hands together in glee thinking about messing with BIRTH CONTROL and LGBT rights as well…

PhlubbaDubba,

Quoth the Privs: “bUt DeMs SaMe!”

raynethackery,

See how fast the rest of New England turns New Hampshire into a pariah.

raptir,

Makes sense, 24 hours to make a decision is plenty.

And of course women should be taking pregnancy tests daily just in case.

MedicPigBabySaver,

You bet! Maybe they can add chemicals right into the toilet water so it changes color for a + test.

I’m sure they could make testing chemical tablets just like the cleaning tablets.

Garbanzo,

That actually sounds kind of cool.

Drivebyhaiku,

Even if you caught a pregnancy at the 15 day mark a lot of the paperwork and diagnosis will mark that as the 4 week mark. The clock sort of officially starts from your last period so for the first two weeks-ish of a pregnancy you aren’t ACTUALLY pregnant.

There isn’t really a functional 15 day abortion option because the earliest you can catch a pregnancy is at official week four. Conception itself is really hard to track exactly so they just tag the whole thing to the last obvious biological proof a person wasn’t pregnant.

Which means this isn’t a “get thee to a doctor” move. It’s a “they know this fact is essentially no different in function than a full ban but it kinda sounds like it’s not if you never did your homework .”

Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

Women are nothing but livestock to these people. There only to make more babies to feed to the capitalist machine. Their god has made women to be property, with no franchise, no rights, no purpose but to be bred and do work beneath them, like raising those babies and cooking and keeping a home for their owners. It makes no difference to them if that woman is their mother, their sister or their daughter.

GiddyGap,

Unfortunately, it looks like 50 percent of the US voting population is on their side. Including a lot of women.

Emma_Gold_Man,

Nope. Gerrymandering and senate bias toward less populous states just make it look that way.

Hazzia,

Yep yep. The fact that proposed amendments that go to public vote keep getting neg diffed by voters, it should be pretty obvious what the public thinks.

deo,

But this proposed law does not ban abortion 15 days after ovulation — it bans abortion at 15 days gestation, counted from the first day of a woman’s last menstrual cycle… which means it would ban abortion before some woman have even had conceived.

BuddyTheBeefalo,

Yep, thats how you normaly count:

Your weeks of pregnancy are dated from the first day of your last period. This means that in the first 2 weeks or so, you are not actually pregnant.

www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/week-by-week/…/1-2-3-weeks/

The title is wrong. The two weeks end two weeks before the tests can detect it.

deo,

Which also means that you can just go ahead and subtract 2-4 weeks (at least, subtract more if you’re not super regular or your christofascist overlords require a waiting period between an initial consultation and the procedure itself) from any of these laws. So far, i’ve only seen one that uses the “probable fertilization” date instead (but to be honest, idk how they determine that date so there could be some fuckery there too).

asteriskeverything, (edited )

I’m so angry at these fucks.

Even if nothing ultimately comes from these bs laws, it wastes so much time and effort. I believe intentionally so. Keep progressives too busy putting out their flaming turd bags to actually make much progress.

Either way they fycking win while we argue and make jokes and fear for our futures.

Tikiporch,

Any idea what is supposed to be in the center of that tshirt?

probablynaked,

It was a rock formation that was emblematic of the state, even appearing on their state quarters

It actually fell apart shortly before the quarter came out iirc

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain

Tikiporch,

That’s pretty emblematic of the Republican party, actually.

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

I love that these fuckwits haven’t come to terms with the fact that most Americans hate this policy, and all it does is drive out the vote for the Dems.

Alto,
Alto avatar

They have, that's why they're turning the anti-democratic actions up to 11

assassin_aragorn,

It’s very telling they they’re floundering on this and can’t get consistent messaging. The party has fallen apart in most meaningful ways. The Republican Party of 2012 would’ve had analyst and strategist approved talking points given to every Republican to parrot. They’d have a consistent national campaign of bullshit.

Not only are the strategists being ignored, I think a lot of them have flat out left since 2016. If they weren’t far right to start, there’s a good chance they’ve been disgusted and quit.

This isn’t to say we should be complacent. A wounded animal is the most dangerous. But they are wounded, and a few good attacks will end them.

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